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Old 09-23-2016, 04:32 AM
 
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They don't do that anymore, in fact Americans are one of the better behaved tourists.
Problem is that for the untrained ear and people not used to tourists, some British might be confused with Americans. Quite aggravating.
When you see a group of English speaking tourists screaming or behaving like a.holes, there's a 95 percent probability that they are Brits.
Americans did dress differently many years ago, they should dress differently now not to be confused.
Americans do TIP, that makes them very popular in hostelry.
As to hotels, you don't have to live in the smack center of Paris.
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Old 09-23-2016, 06:17 AM
 
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Hard / firm beds are not that common in Norway and I think Scandinavia in general. The hotels in London, Paris and so on are often quite crappy, unless you are willing to pay a premium for a five star hotel. Berlin has nice and cheap hotels.
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Old 09-24-2016, 03:28 AM
 
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Why, because it's too expensive
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Old 09-24-2016, 07:25 AM
 
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They don't do that anymore, in fact Americans are one of the better behaved tourists.
Problem is that for the untrained ear and people not used to tourists, some British might be confused with Americans. Quite aggravating.
When you see a group of English speaking tourists screaming or behaving like a.holes, there's a 95 percent probability that they are Brits.
Americans did dress differently many years ago, they should dress differently now not to be confused.
Americans do TIP, that makes them very popular in hostelry.
As to hotels, you don't have to live in the smack center of Paris.
I think most people can tell the difference between an American accent and British accents, and there are a lot of very well behaved and well mannered British people.

Yes young Brits have a reputation for partying and drinking in certain areas of the Med, but Americans do exectly the same in relation to Spring Break etc. Furthermore these Med party zones with massive strips full of bars and clubs are there to cater for exectly this type of tourist if they don't want people getting drunk and causing problems then the solution is simple, close the massive vast strips of bars and clubs offering cheap drinks to young people, although that would have a knock on effect on the economy, and would be a bit like Las Vegas closing a lot of it's Casinos to stop gambling problems.

I know places such as Magaluf have had enough, and are trying to change by closing bars and bringing in new alcohol laws, which is perfectly sensible, as if you build massive strips full of cheap price pubs and clubs then don't be surprised if you end up with drunken teenagers vomiting all over the place and behaving badly.

Magaluf scrubs up for a new type of tourist | The Independent

Magaluf’s days of drinking and casual sex are numbered – or so Mallorca hopes - The Guardian

Magaluf to become 'mature resort', says government - Telegraph

Spain’s Magaluf resort to get upmarket makeover - Lonely Planet

It should however be noted that there are other more family orientated resorts in Europe which cater for the vast majority of well behaved British tourists including younfg families, middle class professionals and retired, who make up a large percentage of British tourists.

A large proportion of British tourist are actually middle class families or elderly retired couples, using their retirement funds to enjoy their latter years, and they are usually well mannered and very polite people.

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Travel and tourism is a major beneficiary of the Third Age Economy, with spending by those aged 65-74 rising by 51% in real terms between 2002 and 2012, against just 17% for all UK households. The over-50s now account for the majority of the nation’s spending on travel and tourism.

Read: The economics of retirement: the power of pensioner spending - The Guardian


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Old 09-24-2016, 07:35 AM
 
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I think most people can tell the difference between an American accent and British accents, and there are a lot of very well behaved and well mannered British people.

Yes young Brits have a reputation for partying and drinking on the Med, but Americans do exectly the same in relation to Spring Break etc.
Yes, the general accents are quite different. It also seems like many Americans are loud talkers.
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I think most people can tell the difference between an American accent and British accents, and there are a lot of very well behaved and well mannered British people.

Yes young Brits have a reputation for partying and drinking in certain areas of the Med, but Americans do exectly the same in relation to Spring Break etc. Furthermore these Med party zones with massive strips full of bars and clubs are there to cater for exectly this type of tourist if they don't want people getting drunk and causing problems then the solution is simple, close the massive vast strips of bars and clubs offering cheap drinks to young people, although that would have a knock on effect on the economy, and would be a bit like Las Vegas closing a lot of it's Casinos to stop gambling problems.
Except Americans usually don't go all the way to Europe for drinking and partying; they'd go somewhere closer and cheaper for that.
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Old 09-24-2016, 09:07 AM
 
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Except Americans usually don't go all the way to Europe for drinking and partying; they'd go somewhere closer and cheaper for that.
That's true.

And based on my personal observations, the British tourists tend to take the "drunken and disorderly" to a whole new level wherever they go.

Of course the majority I've met are nice, normal people. But chances are, if someone's ability to control themselves is falling apart right before your eyes, and they speak English, it's British English. For a decade, every February we used to stay in a Spanish-owned Mexican all-inclusive resort where they had hard liquor in the rooms. I've never seen anyone else get so drunk so fast as some British tourists. One moment he's checking in at the front desk, and no more than 45 minutes later he's passed out cold on a lounge chair at the pool. We used to call them "lobstertails" because they would come pale as paper, get drunk, pass out in the sun, and be bright red the rest of their stay.

Another rather unpleasing trait they have is trying to interact with strangers when they get drunk. Americans and Canadians can get pretty wasted too, but they usually keep to themselves. Brits, on the other hand, need an audience (even though they are rather isolated when sober).\

OTOH, the British tourists were some of the coolest people we've meet at that resort. There was that guy from Manchester who'd come to an open poolside bar every night to play his guitar and sing songs and have a good time, and he was a riot. The memories of sitting there, sipping my Manhattans, and listening to him sing & exchanging a few jokes every now and then are some of the best from all of our Mexican trips.

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Yes, the general accents are quite different. It also seems like many Americans are loud talkers.
That's also true. We were on a plane from Amsterdam to Prague earlier that year, and there was a large group of middle-aged people from Nebraska, that you could hear from the other end of the plane. They would engage anyone willing to talk in their conversation. A good natured group of folks, but they were far more loud than is the norm there.

Talking about hotels - there are ****ty hotels everywhere. Including the US and Canada. Generally, I'd expect an inexpensive to midrange ($80-120 per night) hotel to be better in States, but this greatly depends on the chain, too (e.g. I prefer Hampton Inn when traveling for business, even though they are less upscale than some other chains we can book, but I am yet to see a Hampton that's not clean and well maintained and without a working WiFi). A cheap hotel can be a crap shoot, but the American ones tend to be larger and with more amenities. As to the expensive hotels, some of the best ones I've seen were in Mexico. Of all places

As someone said, when comparing European and American hotels, subtract a star from a European hotel rating to make sure you're comparing apples and oranges.

As far as the hotel service goes, I usually get better service in American hotels, but this greatly depends on location. The staff in Canadian hotels seems to treat guests with poorly hidden contempt (and for some reason, I always seem to get better service from the French Canadian staff). The staff in Mexico is extremely polite, but often that's it as long as you don't expect them to actually do anything for you. "Si Señor" and you never see them again. Of course I am shamelessly generalizing

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Old 09-25-2016, 02:50 AM
 
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Except Americans usually don't go all the way to Europe for drinking and partying; they'd go somewhere closer and cheaper for that.


As I mentioned US traditions like Spring Break often lead to drunken antics, obviously the Brits do go to certain parts of the Med that have developed in to resorts with miles after miles of bars and clubs selling cheap alcohol.

Top Party Islands in Europe

Top clubbing destinations for 2016 across the Mediterranean.

LOL - The Inbetweeners supposedly on the Malia Strip and in German, but you get the general idea.



However the majority of well behaved family orientated or mature British tourists avoid these areas, and tend to go to quieter more upmarket resorts.

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Old 09-25-2016, 02:54 AM
 
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"Yeah, I'm going to NYC for the first time, sit in bars all the day and sleep off my hang over until 2pm in my hotel room. Money well spent!"
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Old 09-25-2016, 02:59 AM
 
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"Yeah, I'm going to NYC for the first time, sit in bars all the day and sleep off my hang over until 2pm in my hotel room. Money well spent!"
I think there is a big difference between the tourists who head to NYC and those young people who head to the Mediterranean Party and Clubbing resorts.
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