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Old 10-30-2014, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Taipei
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it would **** off more than Russia. Such a union would make Scandinavia an economic powerhouse which would likely not sit too well with some European countries. Look at the reaction Germany gets as it has a lot of say in economic decisions. A unified Scandinavia would be another dominant force in Europe in this regard.
Yeah perhaps.
I think it'd be more like Canada though. A peace-loving regional power.
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Old 10-30-2014, 09:29 PM
 
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Yeah perhaps.
I think it'd be more like Canada though. A peace-loving regional power.
Oh yeah definitely peaceful, but economically powerful.
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Old 10-30-2014, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Stockholm
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I know the current countries have their own provinces and you mentioned that the power structure in these countries is currently centralized (so I was wrong when I thought they were federal). This does work. It works in the US., the nation is federal but the states themselves are unitary with power centralized in the state capitals.
It should be mentioned though that the only sub-national provinces that has any such centralized home rule is the Faroe Islands and Greenland, and the Ã…land Islands of Finland. There is also no other self-ruling provinces in Denmark or Finland.

It should also be mentioned that Sweden, Norway and Iceland does not have any kind of self-ruling provinces attatched to them at all. In Sweden and Norway there is counties (län in Sweden, fylken in Norway) and municipalities (kommuner), who does not hold any kind of local legislative power, but adhere entirely to their national laws and policies. Sweden, Norway and Iceland are very centralized to the national government and there is no region or province who has any exception to that system. They are very much unitary states in its true meaning, as there is not any local laws at all.

Same thing in Denmark and Finland, except the Faroe Islands and Greenland, and except the Ã…land Islands, who all 3 together has a population of less than 140,000.
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Old 10-30-2014, 10:54 PM
 
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It should be mentioned though that the only sub-national provinces that has any such centralized home rule is the Faroe Islands and Greenland, and the Ã…land Islands of Finland. There is also no other self-ruling provinces in Denmark or Finland.

It should also be mentioned that Sweden, Norway and Iceland does not have any kind of self-ruling provinces attatched to them at all. In Sweden and Norway there is counties (län in Sweden, fylken in Norway) and municipalities (kommuner), who does not hold any kind of local legislative power, but adhere entirely to their national laws and policies. Sweden, Norway and Iceland are very centralized to the national government and there is no region or province who has any exception to that system. They are very much unitary states in its true meaning, as there is not any local laws at all.

Same thing in Denmark and Finland, except the Faroe Islands and Greenland, and except the Ã…land Islands, who all 3 together has a population of less than 140,000.
Then in a union, they would probably work best as a federation where each would maintain their unitary status at a sub-national level.
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Old 10-30-2014, 11:29 PM
 
Location: Stockholm
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Actually there has been a unified Scandinavia kind of, for a very long time ago. It had Sweden, Denmark and Norway as sovereign members, with Finland as a part of Sweden, and Iceland, Faroe Islands and Greenland as overseas Norwegian dependencies. This was more of a confederation though as all 3 parts of it were sovereign.

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Old 10-31-2014, 02:25 AM
 
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Would a unified Scandinavia be as economically powerful as one rather than split. Being split collectively may give a greater economy. The likes of Finland would gain in economic security as they are heavily dependent on one industry, pulp. Finland had over 25% unemployed about 20 years ago when the bottom fell out of the pulp market.

The EU will make any such union irrelevant. If the EU has a combined defence force we then have a lose United States of Europe.
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Old 10-31-2014, 03:48 AM
 
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Pretty sure that it wouldn't work out. For a case study of a country with several national identities refer to the rise and fall of Austria-Hungary.
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Old 10-31-2014, 04:28 AM
 
Location: Sweden
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Pretty sure that it wouldn't work out. For a case study of a country with several national identities refer to the rise and fall of Austria-Hungary.
Any reason why you think it would not work out?
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Old 10-31-2014, 04:43 AM
 
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Any reason why you think it would not work out?
Nationalism of each country.
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Old 10-31-2014, 05:35 AM
 
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Pretty sure that it wouldn't work out. For a case study of a country with several national identities refer to the rise and fall of Austria-Hungary.
They all have different languages for a start. Finnish is very different to the others. It would not work. Norway has more of a relationship with the UK rather than Finland with the main body of Norway's population a long way from Finland.

Economies or defence force mergers. The economies of all the Nordics is very good. There is no need to merge from that point. Defence? Only Finland is really threatened in some way. Putin said he wanted it back in Russian control.

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