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Old 12-29-2014, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Hong Kong / Vienna
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Phew, I guess a guy from Atlanta just analyzed immigration to 28+ European countries he most likely never visited himself and solved all problems in connection with that just by typing 5 lines on city-data.

I guess we should make him President of Europe.
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Old 12-29-2014, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Vienna, Austria
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Default Two way of life

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Countries in Europe should be more assertive in keeping their cultures but at the same time welcome those who wish to adopt it as their own.
They largely do not.This why those immigrants want to use their own as the dominant culture.
It might be two different kinds of behavior:
a) Be really interesting in history of his country, read national literature, lyrics, proverbs, know dances and to greet those of other nations, including migrants.
b) Only watch tv, be a man with low culture and dislike alien people.

The first is the best but the second is easier.
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Old 12-29-2014, 03:47 PM
 
Location: france
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You miss my point.Haitians are largely Africans that was colonized by France.
Haiti paid the debt for their freedom after France lost to them.How does a people who were enslaved owe their former masters for decades for the cost of their own freedom.?
Haiti could never catch up.

Its one example of how Europe has completely dismantled any type of cohesive autonomous people to govern effectively.
It was an indemnisation for the french who were living in Haiti. This debt have been paid 130 years ago. How many times you need?
It's strange that when French occupy the place the island was pretty rich and productiv, isn't it?
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Old 12-29-2014, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Phew, I guess a guy from Atlanta just analyzed immigration to 28+ European countries he most likely never visited himself and solved all problems in connection with that just by typing 5 lines on city-data.

I guess we should make him President of Europe.
No thank you.Europe is lovely but I want no part in its affairs.

I've lived in Italy,England and Germany.
Don't get testy with me because you don't agree.I never claimed to have the answers I only disregarded some of the sentiments on here by just looking at the facts at hand.Now if you wish to get personal we can most certainly get "turn up"as we say in the ATL.

Immigrants in the U.S. have an easier time assimilating in American society and are accepted more so than Europe.Just go back and read some of the comments from some of your neighbors and its clear what I say has merit.
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Old 12-29-2014, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Florence/Prato 43,49 N
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Countries in Europe should be more assertive in keeping their cultures but at the same time welcome those who wish to adopt it as their own.
They largely do not.This why those immigrants want to use their own as the dominant culture.
With this i agree
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Old 12-29-2014, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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It was an indemnisation for the french who were living in Haiti. This debt have been paid 130 years ago. How many times you need?
It's strange that when French occupy the place the island was pretty rich and productiv, isn't it?
I find it interesring that you ignore what made it rich.European were dying of disease. All the original inhabitants no longer a part of the island.Africans are not native to the Caribbean.

The debt to much longer to pay off,it has not been 130 years.
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Old 12-29-2014, 04:43 PM
 
Location: france
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So cool....

All the things that you reproch to Europeans have been made by Arabs, Africans and Asians to. More Africans have been slave in Arabs place than in the new world. And more Europeans have been put in slavery by arabs than africans in the new world.
You know why you only accuse europeans of everything and not arabs. Because europeans are kind. But don't forget we are kind for the moment but it can change. We become to be fed up by your constant insults and troubles.
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Old 12-29-2014, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Sweden
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So cool....

All the things that you reproch to Europeans have been made by Arabs, Africans and Asians to. More Africans have been slave in Arabs place than in the new world. And more Europeans have been put in slavery by arabs than africans in the new world.
You know why you only accuse europeans of everything and not arabs. Because europeans are kind. But don't forget we are kind for the moment but it can change. We become to be fed up by your constant insults and troubles.
They receive constant insults too so stop moaning.
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Old 12-29-2014, 05:51 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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So cool....

All the things that you reproch to Europeans have been made by Arabs, Africans and Asians to. More Africans have been slave in Arabs place than in the new world. And more Europeans have been put in slavery by arabs than africans in the new world.
You know why you only accuse europeans of everything and not arabs. Because europeans are kind. But don't forget we are kind for the moment but it can change. We become to be fed up by your constant insults and troubles.
The Atlantic slave trade was different from the Arabian slave trade dummy! It had a racial element to it and was more intense not to mention more recent. Brazil outlawed slavery in 1888 that's only 3 generations ago.

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They receive constant insults too so stop moaning.

Yes stereotyped all the time in the Media not to mention self hatred.
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Old 12-29-2014, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Sweden
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Yes stereotyped all the time in the Media not to mention self hatred.
Yes exactly. I don't know why immigration is such an issue in Italy, they are 6 times larger than us yet we take in more asylum seekers Not an issue at all
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