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Location: Near Tours, France about 47°10'N 0°25'E
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I agree with improb, the tiny Alto Adige, the northermost part of Italy, has definetely a "northern" vibe compared to anywhere in Southern Europe.
Why "Padania" instead of Po Valley? No one use the term "Padania" here.
I think France is more organized and "northernized" than Northern Italy as a whole. Even Slovenia has a more "northern" feeling, but it is often included in Central Europe instead of Southern Europe for its historic background.
Well, it depends where in France. Northern France is obviously more "Northern" than Piemonte, lombardia or Venezia; but Languedoc, Provence or Corsica are more "southern" than northern Italy.
yeah, I have relatives / ancestry in Languedoc and to me it definitely feels more mediterranean / southern than here. Mild winters, mediterranean vegetation, the food, the way people behave...
Po Valley feels just slightly more "southern" than Lyon IMO. Probably more similar to the interior French southwest ?
I had a chat with a friend from Southern Italy who spent his erasmus year in Dublin. Basically he said that the Irish were very mediterranean to him and completely unlike the Brits. I responded that they were probably similar in character to the Bretons in France which do have a celtic trait and are quite different from typical french people.
Of course these are all very broad generalizations.
Rubbish! The Irish are even less Mediterranean ("Southern") than other British groups, they are as pale as heck! What are you talking about? Bretons? What has your friend been drinking? Southern French people are Mediterraneans. Who told you that Celtic people were Meds? Go and find out testimonies of the Ancient Romans and Greeks on the Celts/Keltoi. Those are not generalizations, but they are rather lies.
I agree with improb, the tiny Alto Adige, the northermost part of Italy, has definetely a "northern" vibe compared to anywhere in Southern Europe.
Why "Padania" instead of Po Valley? No one use the term "Padania" here.
I think France is more organized and "northernized" than Northern Italy as a whole. Even Slovenia has a more "northern" feeling, but it is often included in Central Europe instead of Southern Europe for its historic background.
Slovenia is a southern-central European country. It is not a Central European country in the same context as we would say Austria, Switzerland and the Czech Republic are!
Rubbish! The Irish are even less Mediterranean ("Southern") than other British groups, they are as pale as heck! What are you talking about? Bretons? What has your friend been drinking? Southern French people are Mediterraneans. Who told you that Celtic people were Meds? Go and find out testimonies of the Ancient Romans and Greeks on the Celts/Keltoi. Those are not generalizations, but they are rather lies.
This was about behavior and culture, not about genetics. I thought it was pretty clear.
Seriously, it doesn't matter what type of skin they have, but their behaviour.
What behavior? The Irish are totally different from Latin-speaking people (Italians, Spaniards, Portuguese, French, Swiss, Belgian Wallons) and are much more culturally closer to the people of the U.K. and others in the Anglosphere countries. There is nothing Latin/Mediterranean there. Even in previous times, Celtic Christian doctrines differ trmendously than those of Roman Christian ones, for a long time they even denied the authority of the pope. So we see here different societies. On top of the sports we all have such as soccer (football), the Irish have their own Gaelic sports, which are also played in countries with large Celtic communities such as Australia, the U.S., Canada, etc...
Your friend either was dreaming or didn't know what he was talking about.
Location: Near Tours, France about 47°10'N 0°25'E
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yeah, I have relatives / ancestry in Languedoc and to me it definitely feels more mediterranean / southern than here. Mild winters, mediterranean vegetation, the food, the way people behave...
Po Valley feels just slightly more "southern" than Lyon IMO. Probably more similar to the interior French southwest ?
The Po valley is the italian equivalent of the upper Rhone Valley (Rhone-Alpes) in France. Those places are located at the same latitudes (Grenoble is at the same latitude as Turin, Lyon about the same as Milan or Venezia, just slighly kilometers further north), on the east or west side of the Alps. They have very similar climates and traditioanl culture on both sides is very similar. The french south west is more "southern" than the Po valley, with its strong spanish influences, even if the climate is not considered mediterranean in both cases.
It depends of what you call "southwest", which is a controversial debate in France, but looking at places like, say, Cahors or Agen, these places do have a southern twist while not being mediterranean. The same could be said about the Drome area.
Even Toulouse is quite similar to Bologna in many aspects, but no perfect matches exist.
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