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So let me get this straight? The not only hate the United States, but do they also hate the American people? Cause that is just wrong to hate the citizens!
That's Russia today for you Aethalstad, going backwards at warp speed.
So let me get this straight? The not only hate the United States, but do they also hate the American people? Cause that is just wrong to hate the citizens!
Hmmm...
It's a tough one. Because what's the United States without its people? And what is Russia without Russians?
On one hand, one understands that there are plenty of people ( in both places) that have little to do with the governments, their decisions and actions. So you'd think it's plain wrong to hate the citizens. On another hand - governments in both respective countries are not exactly space aliens and people who are connected to them/support them are not space aliens either. So it becomes everyone's personal choice how to go about it, and you see Russians on FB who remind that governments and citizens are not one and the same thing, and then you see some that say "we don't care, they all want our destruction."
I posted this thread before on the history forums, but I was told by nearly everyone to post it here. So there you have that.
For Russians born in the early to mid 80s 1982-1986, do they have any memories of the Soviet Union and the Cold War??
I'm just curious of this, because I know through reading similar threads that people born in the 60s and early-mid 70s remember the USSR and the Cold War, but I never have gotten an answer when it comes to this one.
Now I might be stupid asking this question, but I am none of the less curious. If they do, would they consider themselves Soviets later turned Russians or do they just consider themselves Russian?
Also, would they have been molded into that Soviet or Cold War mindset/mentality like the others just like how in the U.S, people had a similar mindset/mentality or is that a no?
I'd really like to know! I also would love it if I could get answers directly from them!
Are you conducting a survey for your school paper?
You need to clarify what you mean by "Russian": "Russian" is both ethnicity and nationality.
Russian can mean either being a citizen (national) of Russian Federation or ethnic identification.
RF has many, many ethnicities living in it, other than "ethnic Russians", and many ethnic Russians live in other countries and not in Russia.
Soviet Union is long-gone, only few diehards consider themselves a "Soviet" person now and as to "mindset", not sure what you mean--things change and person's views change--USSR had collapsed 25 years ago, people keep some of the mentality/values and the rest changes. You must be a very young person--person hardly stays the same over 25 years of rapid changes.
I lived many years in USSR, Russia and America can I can see bull**** lies pulled by either system and government.
All governments are just out to brainwash and let the elite to milk the sheeple, that's about it. Neither of the systems is better than another: same book, different cover. USSR commies are very close to modern US fascism, a marriage made in heaven, I'd say.
Hmmm...
It's a tough one. Because what's the United States without its people? And what is Russia without Russians?
On one hand, one understands that there are plenty of people ( in both places) that have little to do with the governments, their decisions and actions. So you'd think it's plain wrong to hate the citizens. On another hand - governments in both respective countries are not exactly space aliens and people who are connected to them/support them are not space aliens either. So it becomes everyone's personal choice how to go about it, and you see Russians on FB who remind that governments and citizens are not one and the same thing, and then you see some that say "we don't care, they all want our destruction."
Well, but look at Bush's war in Iraq. You can't pin that on the American people. And I'd say the same goes for the continued war/s in that region.
Did the American people consider Russia to be an "evil empire", as Reagan did? The citizen diplomacy that was triggered by his warlike talk says they didn't. Leaders get elected (or....not, in Russia, haha ), but then they sometimes do their own thing, or feel that circumstances push them to do that. Or corporate interests take over. Or they need a little war to boost their popularity at home (Putin--Ukraine, Reagan--Grenada, Fujimori--Ecuador), whatever.
Well, but look at Bush's war in Iraq. You can't pin that on the American people.
Well who did it then? Sure it was not just Bush who single-handedly put a military outfit on and marched to Iraq? Of course it were American people in uniforms that supported their commander-in-chief, some grudgingly, some not. And it were American people who didn't get rid of Bush after this ordeal. It's another thing I'm sure that you personally didn't know a single person ( among your friends) who'd have supported this war, but that doesn't mean that there were no others out there of the different opinion on this matter.
Likewise no one in my circle of friends would have used any expletives towards Americans. Interestingly enough, when some Russians sent me "friend request" on FB, reading my stance on Donbass, once they've discovered that I have plenty of American friends as well, they never said a thing, as critical of the US government as they were under the circumstances. They understand. But that doesn't mean that there are no others out there, who cuss and curse and point at America and Americans as the source of all evil on Earth. The good thing about them though, is that they usually sound so dumb on each and every other topic, that you can discard them right away, as annoying fly.
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Did the American people consider Russia to be an "evil empire", as Reagan did? The citizen diplomacy that was triggered by his warlike talk says they didn't. Leaders get elected (or....not, in Russia, haha ), but then they sometimes do their own thing, or feel that circumstances push them to do that. Or corporate interests take over. Or they need a little war to boost their popularity at home (Putin--Ukraine, Reagan--Grenada, Fujimori--Ecuador), whatever.
Well there we go. The reasons might be different ( why some people work in unison with their governments,) for some ( Russians) it might be ideology, for Americans - a convenient ways of life, but as I said my opinion is such, that part of population in every respective country still always supports and follows its government. If you and me don't fall into this category, that doesn't mean that it's not out there.
I was born in 1980 and I remember Soviet Union very well. We were born in a country that does not exist.
I remember what a tragedy it was for us. White became black and black became white.
They told to us a lot of dirt about our history. It was like our world turned upside down.
They tried to erase our spirit, our history.
I can say thanks to the USSR for my happy childhood. That was great!
Nobody taught us to hate the USA.
I was born in 1980 and I remember Soviet Union very well. We were born in a country that does not exist.
I remember what a tragedy it was for us. White became black and black became white.
They told to us a lot of dirt about our history. It was like our world turned upside down.
They tried to erase our spirit, our history.
I can say thanks to the USSR for my happy childhood. That was great!
Nobody taught us to hate the USA.
I was in US when Soviet Union Collapsed. My Date of Birth is 1976. Born in old Russian Capital called Kiev, maybe you heard of us
I have no "American" friends. All my friends born to Soviet Union and are fluent in Russian.
When we left there was 52 million people in Ukraine, now it's 42. People from villages moved in our flats....
It's IQ based, people with a brain leave then people with half a brain leave...
There is a question that really needs answering though... 10k people died in Ukraine... 17k people wounded, Why ?
The thing is, I dated a girl from Donetsk... I promised her I would find out this very important question !
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Cause that is just wrong to hate the citizens!
), but then they sometimes do their own thing, or feel that circumstances push them to do that. Or corporate interests take over. Or they need a little war to boost their popularity at home (Putin--Ukraine, Reagan--Grenada, Fujimori--Ecuador), whatever.
