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I remember this time and I like it. I felt safe and protected, I didn't know what terrorism and nationalism are. Soviet Union gave everything for the people of USSR and other countries. And it was tragedy when USSR collapsed. And I hope it will reborn again.
I remember this time and I like it. I felt safe and protected, I didn't know what terrorism and nationalism are. Soviet Union gave everything for the people of USSR and other countries. And it was tragedy when USSR collapsed. And I hope it will reborn again.
I agree, USSR was a single bright spot in the whole world. A human being born and raised there was a real human being, not a half animal part of a consumption machine like most westerners. There was almost no violent crime, no unemployment, no homeless, no hunger. Every imaginable profession was accessible to anyone at no cost.
The thing that killed USSR was just lack of freedoms, and that political "elite", which got too old and distanced from the rest of the nation. Of course western secret services "helped" too.
Yet Russia has managed to save some of USSR spirit, but not sure how long it will last giving all the massive western propaganda war going on against it.
I remember this time and I like it. I felt safe and protected, I didn't know what terrorism and nationalism are. Soviet Union gave everything for the people of USSR and other countries. And it was tragedy when USSR collapsed. And I hope it will reborn again.
Somebody names "Atai" is saying there was no nationalism in the USSR? There was no nationalism allowed, but there was still nationalism, and it wasted no time in coming up from underground after the crash. In a good way. Pride in one's ethnicity isn't a bad thing, unless taken to extremes. Incorporating ethnic history, traditions, values and language into the school or university curriculum, expressing cultural and spiritual traditions through art, organizing traditional holidays and festivals, these are not bad things. This contributes to human diversity.
I remember this time and I like it. I felt safe and protected, I didn't know what terrorism and nationalism are. Soviet Union gave everything for the people of USSR and other countries. And it was tragedy when USSR collapsed. And I hope it will reborn again.
I don't think that much has changed. Fundamental aspects of the USSR are still with us. The main difference now is that oil prices have crashed, so the government can't provide as much support to9 the regions as it used to, and it can't pursue the infrastructure projects and economic development activities it had hoped to. But there are still plenty of workplaces that receive federal operating support for workers who do nothing most days but play solitaire on their computers, and have tea breaks. The good old "the government pretends to pay us, so we pretend to work" ethos is alive and well.
I don't think that much has changed. Fundamental aspects of the USSR are still with us. The main difference now is that oil prices have crashed, so the government can't provide as much support to9 the regions as it used to, and it can't pursue the infrastructure projects and economic development activities it had hoped to. But there are still plenty of workplaces that receive federal operating support for workers who do nothing most days but play solitaire on their computers, and have tea breaks. The good old "the government pretends to pay us, so we pretend to work" ethos is alive and well.
You just repeating BS which your mass media put into your head.
I worked in 3 major US corporations (Fortune 500) where most people do exactly what you described as "play solitaire on their computers, and have tea breaks", because everything is corrupted top to bottom. This is has NOTHING to do with USSR "fundamental" aspects.
The main fundamental aspect in the USSR was that people work for common good and have everything they need to live а fulfilling life.
Shortly put in the USSR and some European countries like France folks work to live and have all major aspects like health and education covered by the state.
In countries like US people live to work, everyone tries to rob each other - you go to hospital they rip you off, you go buy a house, they rip off again big time, you want to put your kids through a school - schools suck, even though you pay crazy amount of money in property taxes, so you ripped off again. And so on.
You just repeating BS which your mass media put into your head.
I worked in 3 major US corporations (Fortune 500) where most people do exactly what you described as "play solitaire on their computers, and have tea breaks", because everything is corrupted top to bottom. This is has NOTHING to do with USSR "fundamental" aspects.
The main fundamental aspect in the USSR was that people work for common good and have everything they need to live а fulfilling life.
Shortly put in the USSR and some European countries like France folks work to live and have all major aspects like health and education covered by the state.
In countries like US people live to work, everyone tries to rob each other - you go to hospital they rip you off, you go buy a house, they rip off again big time, you want to put your kids through a school - schools suck, even though you pay crazy amount of money in property taxes, so you ripped off again. And so on.
The US mass media has no idea what took place in workplaces in the USSR, and it doesn't care, lol! And it has everything to do with the USSR "fundamental" aspects. Yes, they play solitaire for the common good, or chat on the phone instead of attending to customers in the office, all for the glory of the worker's paradise. That goes on in Sweden, too. Funny how workers behave when they have a guaranteed job.
If you want to see "crazy amount of money" paid in property taxes and income taxes, try Europe, not the US. Just because you're not used to taxes doesn't mean the US has "crazy" level of taxes. If it did, the country would be in better shape. And btw, under Yeltsin, the tax rate for small businesses and cooperatives, and for the self-employed (independent artists, etc.) was around 80-90%.
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Somebody names "Atai" is saying there was no nationalism in the USSR? There was no nationalism allowed, but there was still nationalism, and it wasted no time in coming up from underground after the crash. In a good way. Pride in one's ethnicity isn't a bad thing, unless taken to extremes. Incorporating ethnic history, traditions, values and language into the school or university curriculum, expressing cultural and spiritual traditions through art, organizing traditional holidays and festivals, these are not bad things. This contributes to human diversity.
No it came out in a very ugly way.
And not necessarily between the Russians and other ethnicities, but the centuries-long conflicts raised their ugly head all over the place, starting with Nagorny Karabakh, or better say Sumgait. Then Abkhasians vs Georgians, Kirgiz against Uzbeks, Chechens against Russians/ Ossetians and Russians against anyone else.
And it didn't happen "after the crash" - it started by the end of the eighties, with the weakening of Soviet state, economy in particular.
This kind of hatred between ethnic Russians and Caucasians for example was never ever a case during Soviet times.
No it came out in a very ugly way.
And not necessarily between the Russians and other ethnicities, but the centuries-long conflicts raised their ugly head all over the place, starting with Nagorny Karabakh, or better say Sumgait. Then Abkhasians vs Georgians, Kirgiz against Uzbeks, Chechens against Russians/ Ossetians and Russians against anyone else.
And it didn't happen "after the crash" - it started by the end of the eighties, with the weakening of Soviet state, economy in particular.
This kind of hatred between ethnic Russians and Caucasians for example was never ever a case during Soviet times.
"Traditional festivals" on another hand were very much part of Soviet days.
j Yes, true. Context is everything. I was thinking of the Siberian/Far East and Finnic republics and peoples, a very different situation. The Kavkaz has always been known for warrior culture and conflicts among themselves, to some extent, but the regime put a damper on any anti-Russian resentments that might have been festering, and back then, any serious negative attitudes would have been more isolated. Still, you have to figure that Stalin must have had good reason for moving nationalities around en masse. (Which strategy in the end only made things worse.)
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