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Old 08-07-2015, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Stuart, FL
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I posted this thread before on the history forums, but I was told by nearly everyone to post it here. So there you have that.

For Russians born in the early to mid 80s 1982-1986, do they have any memories of the Soviet Union and the Cold War??

I'm just curious of this, because I know through reading similar threads that people born in the 60s and early-mid 70s remember the USSR and the Cold War, but I never have gotten an answer when it comes to this one.

Now I might be stupid asking this question, but I am none of the less curious. If they do, would they consider themselves Soviets later turned Russians or do they just consider themselves Russian?

Also, would they have been molded into that Soviet or Cold War mindset/mentality like the others just like how in the U.S, people had a similar mindset/mentality or is that a no?

I'd really like to know! I also would love it if I could get answers directly from them!
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Old 08-07-2015, 11:53 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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What people born in the 80's remember is that Gorbachev caused the country to fall apart. Some are angry and bitter about that. Others adapted well to the new reality, and took advantage of positive changes.
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Old 08-07-2015, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Finland
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I'm not a Russian, but I was born in 1982. We didn't need a boogey man under your bed, we had the USSR. The USSR was something so scary, alien and violent that I couldn't imagine. Also because my grandfathers had killed Russians in WWII, they told horror stories how terrible the moloch in the east is.

When the Soviet Union collapsed, it's still the best day of my life ever. The fear was gone. The beast wasn't defeated, but it was detained for a while. And as an adult I can face that beast now with courage.

And I will also teach my children to hate Russia. A legacy passing down.
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Old 08-07-2015, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Polderland
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I'm not a Russian, but I was born in 1982. We didn't need a boogey man under your bed, we had the USSR. The USSR was something so scary, alien and violent that I couldn't imagine. Also because my grandfathers had killed Russians in WWII, they told horror stories how terrible the moloch in the east is.

When the Soviet Union collapsed, it's still the best day of my life ever. The fear was gone. The beast wasn't defeated, but it was detained for a while. And as an adult I can face that beast now with courage.

And I will also teach my children to hate Russia. A legacy passing down.
Now why would you teach your children to hate a country that doesn't even exist anymore? So you'd teach them to hate them for what they once were in a long gone past?
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Old 08-07-2015, 02:04 PM
 
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Now why would you teach your children to hate a country that doesn't even exist anymore? So you'd teach them to hate them for what they once were in a long gone past?
I can think of 2 reasons, Finlandization and Karelia
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Old 08-07-2015, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Polderland
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I can think of 2 reasons, Finlandization and Karelia
I can think of more than two reasons to hate Germans. But I don't.
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Old 08-07-2015, 04:36 PM
 
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And I will also teach my children to hate Russia. A legacy passing down.
Why teach them to hate Russia? Better to teach them to be cautious of Russia, but to perhaps be curious about Russia as a travel destination, and to realize that the Russian people and the Russian government are two very different things (as in the US, haha). Russians are wonderful people. St. Petersburg is a great place to visit, and there are other beautiful towns in Western Russia that could be experienced in a holiday weekend.

Oh well.
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Old 08-07-2015, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico
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When the Soviet Union collapsed, it's still the best day of my life ever.
Interesting. second must have been the day the Russian miss universe -Oxana F- was dethroned back in the mid 2000's lol...

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Old 08-07-2015, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Estonia
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Why teach them to hate Russia? Better to teach them to be cautious of Russia, but to perhaps be curious about Russia as a travel destination, and to realize that the Russian people and the Russian government are two very different things (as in the US, haha). Russians are wonderful people. St. Petersburg is a great place to visit, and there are other beautiful towns in Western Russia that could be experienced in a holiday weekend.

Oh well.
Go tell that to the parents who teach their kids to shout: "vsjo nash, Rassija, Rassija!!!"
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Old 08-07-2015, 09:39 PM
 
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Disclaimer!

I posted this thread before on the history forums, but I was told by nearly everyone to post it here. So there you have that.

For Russians born in the early to mid 80s 1982-1986, do they have any memories of the Soviet Union and the Cold War??
From everything I hear, those who were born in the early 80ies still have memories of the Soviet Union, but not of the "cold war," because this mindset was pretty much gone from the mid-eighties.
You might find interesting this song ("Goodbye America") that was created much earlier, but was officially recorded and circulated only in 1994. It was popular already with that generation.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6MksZvcB9A

(These are the lyrics of this song - "Goodbye America.")

"When all those songs that I don’t know
Are all but faded down,
In the sharp tasting air
you’ll hear a scream of my last paper boat.

Good bye America, oh
Where I have never ever been.
Farewell forever!
Take your banjo
And play me for good bye.."

Íàóòèëóñ Ïîìïèëèóñ - Ãóä-áàé, Àìåðèêà - English (Áåðãåð Äìèòðèé) / Ñòèõè.ðó

You might find interesting as well one of the comments left on Youtube;

"Well really, I never thought about the lyrics of this song in my childhood. But now they are as timely as ever. "We were taught for too long to love your forbidden fruit." It's true, in the nineties, before the break-up of the Soviet Union and after it - we loved America and her wonders so much. All of Russia was pro-American. American baseball hats, Coca-Cola and McDonald's, jeans, music, movies - everything was American or with American symbols. We loved America with all our hearts and hated Soviet Union with all our hearts too. Something similar is happening in Ukraine now as well."

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