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Portugal and Brasil speak the same language, Portuguese.
There is no such think as Brazilian or Potuguese language.
Portuguese is a very hard language to learn.
Yes our food is similar to Spain, but we eat more fish cause we have sea everywhere
And our brothers are Brazilians, Spanish are our neighbours
Im Portuguese born, raise and living in Portugal.
Yes, I know PT and BR speak the same language but when I said Brazilian I meant Brazilian Portuguese which many people know it's very different from your Portuguese. I guess I can understand why most of you Portuguese folks want to keep your distance from your Spanish siblings and just refer to them as "neighbors" despite both of you being Iberians and sharing a common history for the most part. Centuries of Spain trying to take you guys over and acting like they are better than you must have really left a deep scar on you guys. I don't blame you
No offense to you guys but Portuguese is NOT a difficult language. I don't know why Portuguese and Brazilians love to brag about how hard their language is. It's harder than Spanish, yes, but it's not a hard language if you compare it to Russian, German or Mandarin which have completely different alphabets and probably more sounds than Portuguese. Portuguese words I can pronounce them easily, Russian words, I can't pronounce them for the life of me, except "spasiba". Personally, I find Italian harder than Portuguese as a native Spanish speaker. I know many other Spanish speakers might say the opposite. Yes, yes, I know it all depends on which is your native language but if Portuguese is considered a "very difficult" language, then so should Spanish, but to a slight lesser degree. After all, both PT and SP are very similar and their vocabulary is 90% similar also. The only hard thing about Portuguese is your phonetics and your sounds which are richer than Spanish, perhaps because you guys were strongly influenced by the French. Heck, French is infinitely harder than Portuguese for, I think, everyone.
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Yes, I know PT and BR speak the same language but when I said Brazilian I meant Brazilian Portuguese which many people know it's very different from your Portuguese. I guess I can understand why most of you Portuguese folks want to keep your distance from your Spanish siblings and just refer to them as "neighbors" despite both of you being Iberians and sharing a common history for the most part. Centuries of Spain trying to take you guys over and acting like they are better than you must have really left a deep scar on you guys. I don't blame you
No offense to you guys but Portuguese is NOT a difficult language. I don't know why Portuguese and Brazilians love to brag about how hard their language is. It's harder than Spanish, yes, but it's not a hard language if you compare it to Russian, German or Mandarin which have completely different alphabets and probably more sounds than Portuguese. Portuguese words I can pronounce them easily, Russian words, I can't pronounce them for the life of me, except "spasiba". Personally, I find Italian harder than Portuguese as a native Spanish speaker. I know many other Spanish speakers might say the opposite. Yes, yes, I know it all depends on which is your native language but if Portuguese is considered a "very difficult" language, then so should Spanish, but to a slight lesser degree. After all, both PT and SP are very similar and their vocabulary is 90% similar also. The only hard thing about Portuguese is your phonetics and your sounds which are richer than Spanish, perhaps because you guys were strongly influenced by the French. Heck, French is infinitely harder than Portuguese for, I think, everyone.
You really need to stop you're treading into territory you dont know well. As the poster already stated most Portuguese people consider Spaniards as neighbors as he has stated not siblings. Spaniards haven't ever really been considered enemies although Castilians in past generations were hated with a passion that was the past. Spain is Portugal's largest trading partner that is a fact it benefits both countries. You are also insinuating that there is some sort of an inferiority complex which isn't the case. The truth is that for centuries the two nations were rivals and existed side by side for the most part wide their backs turned to eachother, whereas Brazilians are truly our brothers in my particular case from the 16th to 19th century thousands upon thousand of family members of mine immigrated to Brazil not a single one has lived in Spain that I'm aware of.
You really need to stop you're treading into territory you dont know well. As the poster already stated most Portuguese people consider Spaniards as neighbors as he has stated not siblings. Spaniards haven't ever really been considered enemies although Castilians in past generations were hated with a passion that was the past. Spain is Portugal's largest trading partner that is a fact it benefits both countries. You are also insinuating that there is some sort of an inferiority complex which isn't the case. The truth is that for centuries the two nations were rivals and existed side by side for the most part wide their backs turned to eachother, whereas Brazilians are truly our brothers in my particular case from the 16th to 19th century thousands upon thousand of family members of mine immigrated to Brazil not a single one has lived in Spain that I'm aware of.
Ok, I made a small mistake on my previous message and before some troll points it out, I will do it first. German does NOT have a different alphabet than Portuguese, but Russian and Mandarin do. I added German after writing my original post and failed to edit the different alphabet part out. There, beat ya, trolls
As for the Portugal/Spain relations. I'm sorry if offending some Portuguese people here. It truly wasn't my intention to do so. I am in no way insinuating you guys have an inferiority complex. I'm just sympathizing with you guys over the resentment for Spain some of you seem to have, which I must say, is well justified. Heck, a lot of Latin Americans still resent them too for what their barbaric ancestors did in the past to our ancestors and for the way some of our compatriots are treated by a certain segment of Spanish society in current times, you know by referring to us as "sudacas", among other things. Perhaps I should stay away from commenting on Portugal/Spain relations, but this is just my perception as an outsider based on the numerous threads I have read on this and other websites about this topic. It does seem, on the other hand, that you guys have sort of like a love/hate relationship with one another, overall.
Ok, I made a small mistake on my previous message and before some troll points it out, I will do it first. German does NOT have a different alphabet than Portuguese, but Russian and Mandarin do. I added German after writing my original post and failed to edit the different alphabet part out. There, beat ya, trolls
As for the Portugal/Spain relations. I'm sorry if offending some Portuguese people here. It truly wasn't my intention to do so. I am in no way insinuating you guys have an inferiority complex. I'm just sympathizing with you guys over the resentment for Spain some of you seem to have, which I must say, is well justified. Heck, a lot of Latin Americans still resent them too for what their barbaric ancestors did in the past to our ancestors and for the way some of our compatriots are treated by a certain segment of Spanish society in current times, you know by referring to us as "sudacas", among other things. Perhaps I should stay away from commenting on Portugal/Spain relations, but this is just my perception as an outsider based on the numerous threads I have read on this and other websites about this topic. It does seem, on the other hand, that you guys have sort of like a love/hate relationship with one another, overall.
That was something that was taught in past generations usually when discussing the specifics of battles I still remember people from the older generation discussing the details of battles with a lot of emotion a mixture of pride, hate, resentment. It is no longer the case.
Ok, I made a small mistake on my previous message and before some troll points it out, I will do it first. German does NOT have a different alphabet than Portuguese, but Russian and Mandarin do. I added German after writing my original post and failed to edit the different alphabet part out. There, beat ya, trolls
As for the Portugal/Spain relations. I'm sorry if offending some Portuguese people here. It truly wasn't my intention to do so. I am in no way insinuating you guys have an inferiority complex. I'm just sympathizing with you guys over the resentment for Spain some of you seem to have, which I must say, is well justified. Heck, a lot of Latin Americans still resent them too for what their barbaric ancestors did in the past to our ancestors and for the way some of our compatriots are treated by a certain segment of Spanish society in current times, you know by referring to us as "sudacas", among other things. Perhaps I should stay away from commenting on Portugal/Spain relations, but this is just my perception as an outsider based on the numerous threads I have read on this and other websites about this topic. It does seem, on the other hand, that you guys have sort of like a love/hate relationship with one another, overall.
There is no resentment other than what outsiders assume. For the most part the relationship is based on mutual ignorance and neutral feelings. Latin American Spanish speakers may have grounds to not like Spain but we don't.
Well actually the definition of ethnocentricism is to interpret someone's culture through the prism of our own. I do not expect Mexicans to know about Portugal more than the average Portuguese person knows about Mexico. I believe it is not unrealistic to expect from Mexicans or Hispanics in general to know the definition of Hispanic. However Mexicans and Hispanics usually know that Portuguese people aren't Hispanics, it's more a problem of mainstream America, even a supposedly respectable academic institution such as the UCLA has a master's degree program in Hispanic languages which comprises Spanish and Portuguese....
Hispania = Portugal + Spain.
Hispanic, anything related to Hispania.
If a Mexican believes that Portuguese are not Hispanic, then he studied at the Cheech and Chong Military Academy.
Hispania was a Roman province that included the entire peninsula, including Lusitania, Tarraconensis, Gaellecia, etc.
You'll read the term in history books, newspapers, car makes, insurance corporations, wherever.
The term was widely and is widely used but since it has a certain "fascist" smell, not in vogue anymore.
For example, during Franco and before "Hispano-America" was in fashion, also Ibero-American.
Iberia was another name of the peninsula. also including Portugal...comes from river Everus or Ebro that was the first thing Phoenicians noticed 3000 years ago.
Hispania is supposed to be a greek name meaning "Land of Rabbits".
I often hear peninsula iberica in the news when they speak of both Portugal and Spain at the same time.
Hispanic in the US does not include Portugal. Mostly because it refers to speakers of a certain language, namely Spanish, not to some ancient province in Europe. So, Brazilians and Portuguese are usually not considered Hispanics in the US.
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