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The vast majority of migrants are not refugees and not from Syria.
And no, it has zero to do with German Jewish refugees. That make no sense on any level. The typical migrant is a young male from the Balkans.
Yeh right
Of course many asylum seekers are from the Balkans but the biggest numbers are from Syria.
The largest migrant group by nationality in 2015 is Syrians, as people flee the country's brutal civil war.
Afghans and Eritreans come next. They are often also fleeing poverty and human rights abuses.
People from Nigeria and Kosovo also make up large groups. Poor, marginalised Roma account for many of the migrants from Kosovo.. Why is EU struggling with migrants and asylum? - BBC News
They are fleeing because of war and massive persecution in their countries.
They would not have left Syria if there was peace. Infact a large majority of Syrians would not want to come to the Europe if there was peace in their country. In addition there are major crimes against humanity and with it the use of chemical weapons. People are also being tortured or killed including innocent civilians due to their backgrounds. If you see your homeland constantly bombed withf no prospect of peace in sight and you are forced to flee from your home.
Even if they remained in Syria, they or their families run a big risk of being persecuted or killed, and so far hundreds of thousands of people have died.
Also it has issues such as:
Around 60% of Syrians are jobless and around the same proportion live in extreme poverty, meaning that they cannot afford the basics they need to stay alive, according to the UN-backed report.
Of course the Syrians may look to you well fed, that the same case as the Jewish refugees that fled Nazi Germany before WW2. Infact you see them well dressed:
But of course most people here are opposed to Syrian refugees and it was the same for German Jewish Refugees in the 1930s as there was so much opposition for refugees then.
You seem to be forgetting one important fact, once the Syrians cross over into Turkey or Jordan they are no longer in a war zone or in fear for there lives, so once they decide to enter into the EU they are now economic immigrants.
Just watched the NBC national news in the US. They showed the Syrians fighting with Hungarian police after the border was closed. A pregnant woman does a B line for the reporter and just happens to pass out right in front of him. Now she has national attention on her in the US. Planned and staged, now the liberals in the US will demand to help. The news acted like they were denied a better life and the Hungarians are the bad guys. Im wondering what kind of life awaits them?
You seem to be forgetting one important fact, once the Syrians cross over into Turkey or Jordan they are no longer in a war zone or in fear for there lives, so once they decide to enter into the EU they are now economic immigrants.
Bill
Just like the German Jews that fled Nazi Germany prior to WW2 to places such as Netherlands and France. The US would have considered the German refugees that tried to flee
Turkey holds 1.9 million Syrian refugees and Jordan is holdingon hundreds of thousands of refugees and they are really struggling very hard to assist them and they create new tensions, and they still continue to hold the bulk of the refugees. Lebanon holds over a million of them and life for Syrain refugees there are:
Some Syrians know people in neighboring countries who they can stay with. But many host families were already struggling on meager incomes and do not have the room or finances to help as the crisis drags on.
Most refugees must find a way to pay rent, even for derelict structures. Without any legal way to work in Jordan and Lebanon, they struggle to find odd jobs and accept low wages that often don’t cover their most basic needs. The situation is slightly better in the Kurdish Autonomous region of northern Iraq, where Syrian Kurds can legally work, but opportunities are now limited because of the conflict there. And language is still a barrier.
Oh yes they could have chosen to stay in neighbouring countries but they barely have enough resources to live day to day. What do you do if your country is at civil war and you are making barely enough to pay rent and feed your family in a neighbouring country?
One in four people in Lebanon are Syrian refugees but they can't leagally work to support their already struggling families. It does not surprise me that so many of them would rather head to Europe even though if Syria is at peace they would rather return there.
Why does not the west and the rest of the world create a safe region for Syrian refugees to go to in Syria to go to so they can stay in their country and it be policed by the UN and international community and it be a non fly zone for war aircraft.
Just like the German Jews that fled Nazi Germany prior to WW2 to places such as Netherlands and France. The US would have considered the German refugees that tried to flee
Turkey holds 1.9 million Syrian refugees and Jordan is holdingon hundreds of thousands of refugees and they are really struggling very hard to assist them and they create new tensions, and they still continue to hold the bulk of the refugees. Lebanon holds over a million of them and life for Syrain refugees there are:
Some Syrians know people in neighboring countries who they can stay with. But many host families were already struggling on meager incomes and do not have the room or finances to help as the crisis drags on.
Most refugees must find a way to pay rent, even for derelict structures. Without any legal way to work in Jordan and Lebanon, they struggle to find odd jobs and accept low wages that often don’t cover their most basic needs. The situation is slightly better in the Kurdish Autonomous region of northern Iraq, where Syrian Kurds can legally work, but opportunities are now limited because of the conflict there. And language is still a barrier.
Oh yes they could have chosen to stay in neighbouring countries but they barely have enough resources to live day to day. What do you do if your country is at civil war and you are making barely enough to pay rent and feed your family in a neighbouring country?
So in your first post you claim they are coming to the EU because they are fleeing war, once that is debunked, you then admit that they are in fact economic immigrants. I hate to break it to you but if lack of good jobs is your only requirement to illegally enter the EU then your going to have a half billion Africans on you shores pretty soon.
Yeh right
Of course many asylum seekers are from the Balkans but the biggest numbers are from Syria.
Ah, so your argument is that Germany and European authorities are lying, and only you know the secret truth?
According to Frontex data for the first six months of 2015 16% of the migrants are Syrian; 7% Afghanistani; 4% Iraqi; 2% Eitrean; 2% Somali. The other 69% are from the Balkans or other safe countries.
In other words, 70% of the "refugees" are actually economic migrants, mostly from Eastern Europe.
Just like the German Jews that fled Nazi Germany prior to WW2 to places such as Netherlands and France.
Oh, sure, the German Jews were economic migrants, just like the European migrants of today. No reason whatsoever for Jews to leave Germany under Hitler!
Are people anti-semitic, stupid, or both? There can be no other explanation for such total rubbish. Young men from the Balkans moving to Germany for social benefits aren't the equivalent of Jewish families trying to avoid being exterminated during WW2.
And the true victims of ISIS are generally not coming to Germany. Those that are coming from Syria are economic migrants, obviously, because they have passed through like 10 stable, safe countries before getting to Germany. If they were refugees they would stop in the first country giving them safety and security, not the richest country 10 countries away.
Ah, so your argument is that Germany and European authorities are lying, and only you know the secret truth?
According to Frontex data for the first six months of 2015 16% of the migrants are Syrian; 7% Afghanistani; 4% Iraqi; 2% Eitrean; 2% Somali. The other 69% are from the Balkans or other safe countries.
It'd be incredibly easy to determine someone from the Balkans or Afghanistan from someone from Syria, considering hardly anyone in the Balkans or Afghanistan would know any Arabic. Eritreans and Somalis can't pass for Syrians if they tried, so that shouldn't be a problem either.
It'd be incredibly easy to determine someone from the Balkans or Afghanistan from someone from Syria, considering hardly anyone in the Balkans or Afghanistan would know any Arabic. Eritreans and Somalis can't pass for Syrians if they tried, so that shouldn't be a problem either.
And indeed it is easy. This is why the vast majority of migrants will not qualify for refugee status.
But they won't leave. Unfortunately most just disappear into German society. There's also an alternate system to process economic migrants, so even if they aren't refugees, and even if they aren't regular immigrants, they have a shot. If not, they stay anyways, and disappear into the cities and the economic underground.
The key is getting to Germany. Once there, they will be almost impossible to deport, unless they commit crimes. This is why Merkel's public statements have been so reckless. The vast majority won't get asylum, yet the vast majority won't leave either. A huge number don't even bother applying for asylum, they're already in Germany and know they don't quality. They've already won the game.
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