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Germany and Sweden are too blame, being so wrapped up in this guilt, to want to allow so many in. Germany I can understand after all their Nazi crimes ( most crimes of which haven't been repaid in cash to other Europeans properly), but why Sweden? are they both nuts. All this softness now will create mayhem tomorrow
Yes, exactly. An extreme lack of foresight. And it's not about preventing migrant deaths because there will be twice or thrice as many boats sinking in the Mediterranean next year if they continue down this path.
I can see this problem getting worse and worse, until it gets to the point where mobs of third world populations bum rush Europe. It will stop when the standard of living is equal to the nation they came from, which in most cases will cause this to go on for years.
Once refugees get word back to friends and relatives a chain letter affect will occur. It will grow and grow and grow. We are talking about 2 billion people in poverty looking for a better life.
Europe must do something now, if they don't the situation could grow out of control.
Because Russia is relatively poor, has no rule of law, and a weak social welfare system. And its economy is terrible. Plus Putin would probably have them shot on sight.
Why would a migrant be crazy enough to choose Russia over Germany? They don't even want Hungary, why would they want Russia? Who moves to Russia?
You think they will be any better off in Germany? They will still be on the streets. In Russia they have a higher chance of starting a community in the Ural mountains than being a successful German.
Because Russia is relatively poor, has no rule of law, and a weak social welfare system. And its economy is terrible. Plus Putin would probably have them shot on sight.
Why would a migrant be crazy enough to choose Russia over Germany? They don't even want Hungary, why would they want Russia? Who moves to Russia?
Russia is one of the most popular destinations for illegal immigrants, with an estimated 10-12 million illegals in the country. Russia is not relatively poor compared to the countries these illegals are coming from. Russia's economy is not terrible at all, no matter how much you wish it was.
No rule of law? Russia has a strict rule of law, people like you are always complaining how "authoritarian" the country is. Go over there and commit a crime and just see how there is "no rule of law". Given it has one of the highest per capita number of prisoners in the world, I assure you there is rule of law.
Putin have them shot on site? Given there are millions of illegal immigrants in the country, i doubt that is happening. People risk their lives to get to Russia, because it is just that much better than the s**t hole countries they originate from.
You are correct about a weak social welfare system, but the economic opportunities far outweigh the lack of freebies being given out.
Their population growth are helping to economically support our inherent rights as Europeans like right to housing, right to free healthcare, our rights to free higher education and more. We are broadening our horizons by being introduced to new cultures and that is a good thing for our future. When immigrants have troubles during their journey to Europe that isn't their faults, that is the fault of politicians and racists who refuse to see the value they bring to our countries.
The second link shows why we need to double or triple or immigration rates if not more to continue moving forward.
Every time I start to feel bad for Europe and the way it is allowing itself to turn in to an Islamic satellite state, I'm going to remember your posts and chuckle. Europe truly is getting what it deserves. It's a shame, and highly ironic, but at the end of the day you've convinced yourselves that this is what you want. It's your civilization to throw away, I suppose. Just remember, when responding to the call to prayer, Mecca lies to the south.
You think they will be any better off in Germany? They will still be on the streets. In Russia they have a higher chance of starting a community in the Ural mountains than being a successful German.
No, they will be better off in Germany, Germany will provide the safety net for them. So all you Germans, keep working, millions of these "refugees" depend on you.
In Russia, the only thing they would be able to do is taken jobs for money under the table, doing things in construction, running scams, criminal activity, the usual. Problem is those areas are defended by the present immigrant groups, who would not want competition.
Every time I start to feel bad for Europe and the way it is allowing itself to turn in to an Islamic satellite state, I'm going to remember your posts and chuckle. Europe truly is getting what it deserves. It's a shame, and highly ironic, but at the end of the day you've convinced yourselves that this is what you want. It's your civilization to throw away, I suppose. Just remember, when responding to the call to prayer, Mecca lies to the south.
Vast majority of Europeans do not support the Islamic immigration, more like invasion.
Do not take the word of Leftists as the popular voice of all Europeans.
I can see this problem getting worse and worse, until it gets to the point where mobs of third world populations bum rush Europe. It will stop when the standard of living is equal to the nation they came from, which in most cases will cause this to go on for years.
Once refugees get word back to friends and relatives a chain letter affect will occur. It will grow and grow and grow. We are talking about 2 billion people in poverty looking for a better life.
Europe must do something now, if they don't the situation could grow out of control.
Western Europe has something like 400 million people. Africa has 1.2 billion, Middle East has 400 million. Europe will be completely swamped if only a small proportion of these populations attempt the move.
And that's not even half the migrant wave. Over half of migrants are from Eastern Europe (350 million people), and obviously just looking for more prosperous countries.
So Eastern Europe + Middle East + Africa you basically have 2 billion people clamoring to get into a part of the world with less than 1/5 the population. And given that many parts of Western Europe aren't particularly wealthy or desirable (say Portugal, much of Spain, and the southern half of Italy), the results for the wealthier remainder will be devastating if not halted.
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