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Actually, "global domination urges" is an understatement if we look at the Russian mythology postulating cosmic importance of Russia/Russian spirituality for the destiny of Universe (no kidding), one just need to browse the titles of the Russian books on Russian history, present and future to see the extent of mass delusions. I will translate a few titles, and give short descriptions.
Oleg Platonov."Destruction of the tsarist Russia". The fall of the tsarist Russia in 1917 was the most tragic event in the modern History. Tsarist Russia was a pillar of global Christian values keeping the scheming global Jewish bankers at bay....
V. Osipov. "Revival of the Russian ideology". Russia is a unique civilization called by providence to rebuild the world on the foundation of Orthodoxy, it is the only alternative to all consuming consumerist murderous monster of the Western Civilization. (Pure lunacy)
Here you can learn about super historic mission and super eschatology of the Russian predestination. (Eschatology is a part of theology concerned with the final events of history, or the ultimate destiny of humanity). No kidding. You guessed it right, Russian mission is to build a superpower capable of resisting the cosmic forces of the Occult represented by USA.
I could keep going and going with lunatic ravings that overflow Russia, the list is truly endless. You need to face the reality, comrade Erasure. Russia and Russian people are profoundly afflicted, the recovery, if any, will be long and painful.
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This is interesting stuff you are talking about.
You are talking not about PRACTICAL stuff on governmental level ( the policies Russia REALLY pursues or ever pursued,) but ESOTERIC thoughts of some Russians, that have little to do with practical goals and policies of Russia.
Because, the likes of authors you've mentioned are targeting "less educated masses," where the educated class of Russians wouldn't touch them, with the notable exception of Starikov, who is a "quasi-philosopher" and basically serves as a "talking head" for Kremlin. ( Him and Kurginyan, who is somewhat different and more oriented towards the "Soviet past.") Some Russians jokingly call their followers a "sect."
As for other esoteric writers/ideas that are out there - that's again a different story. Some Russians of that "wing" look at things from the point of view of Christianity, pointing at materialistic nature of the West ( and the US in particular; Russians for the most part DO distinguish "Old Europe" and the US, although some, ( less educated again) often don't,)) so Russians point at the West as it being ruled by materialistic ideas, and seeing their own suffering and spiritual beginnings of their culture ( which is partially true) as a sign that they in fact are closer to god. "Materialism vs Spirituality" is a big theme for Russians through centuries, no denial about it.
Some of these esoteric writers dig deeper - into pre-Christian pagan times of Russia and find their inspiration there. But all of this got nothing to do with the practical policies that Russia pursued and is still pursuing as a state "in flesh and blood." Russia really never needed ( and still doesn't need) the "world domination" in practical sense of it, because it's one of the richest nations on Earth, with plenty of territories and enough of different "genetic material" to keep it going for generations to come. In a sense you can compare Russia to a submarine that can submerge under water and live its own life, independently from everyone if situation arises. ( And that's what Russia basically did after the Red Revolution, going against the "established rout" of other countries of European descent, because Russia simply could afford this independent path.) The only time when Russians were setting their eyes on "world's domination" were the immediate times after that revolution, but then, again, they were not preoccupied with inflicting their "Russiannes" on the rest of the world, but rather very "international" idea. ( This idea of spreading the "world's revolution" was officially abolished by Stalin in 1929, so don't make mistakes about that one either.)
So this is to sum up things you are talking about. They are esoteric, not practical.
As for example, on esoteric level ( and I look at things from Christian point of view) I consider the US a failed state, because - A. Women's emancipation has little to do with Christianity and B. - This state didn't deliver a "unified" homogenous nation as it was supposed to.
But that's on esoteric level. On a practical level for example, I had a fabulous family reunion during this Labor week-end ( yeah, we have a very close local family here for many years.)
So don't confuse "esoteric" with "practical."
Please, watch American tv and count rare times when Russia is mentioned, even after it got officially crazed and homicidal. Then you watch Russian TV and get overwhelmed with the evils of America.
Why would Americans talk on their TV about Russia?
American politicians like to project the image of America as a "good guy," "fair and generous" on their constituents. And that's what they do on TV. What they do BEHIND the scene, is a totally different matter, and this video is a proof of it.
Russians on another hand are well-aware that they are targeted by the US. They learned it hard way in the nineties ( although it was a failed attempt on behalf of Americans - they didn't quite reach their goals,) and they observe this threat until now.
So of course they'd be preoccupied with it and they are talking about it ( the US) much more.
So, in other words, Russia has its own version of "Manifest destiny" with the only difference that, unlike the US, they have not destabilised the whole Middle East following a blind and crazy geopolitics?
You are correct. That's what it is - "Manifest destiny" basically, not a practical "manual."
It's quite obvious that modern world is ruled by money and America rules money.
There is not much Russians can do in practical sense of it, in changing ( adjusting) the world the way they see it fit. Even when they DO try ( as in case with Afghanistan) Americans are immediately all over the place, counter-attacking them.
Being an older nation, Russians perceive muslims differently than Americans do.
Even the most educated and progressive part of them ( namely Decembrists in the 1800ies) were already designing their plans towards the population of Caucasus. They divided it into "peaceful" and "militant" people. The "peaceful nations" they've said should receive Russian governors and be left in peace, the militant nations should be dispersed throughout Russian lands.
Truth to be told, Russians threw out and downright exterminated radically-Islamic population of Caucasus, considering it to be "incorrigible."
Those they deemed to be "absorbable" - they left them alone, and tried to modify ( quite successfully) their culture. Chechnia is only notable exception.
There is a reason Russians didn't deal too much with a lot of Islamic countries ( unlike the Westerners) they didn't meddle ( and still don't meddle) much in them. They just don't consider them to be "compatible" with Christian cultures at all I assume - no chance for assimilation, no chance for change.
Sorry, that is more like Manifest of esoteric Lunacy. Russia lunacies are big, but Russian capabilities are small. If Russia had the means to pursue its esoteric lunacies, the alleged evils of USA would shrink to almost nothing.
Soviets/Russians did quite a bit of meddling in the Middle East, just look at the weapons those guys fight with. Without Soviet/Russian meddling there wouldnt be ME as we know it today.
Yeah, without "Russian" anything, the world would have been twisted and turned, bowing to America's will by now - you've got that right.
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"I am amazed how easy "alternative", "democratic", "anti imperialist" crowds mourn the the ME "stability" delivered by murderous strong men and maniacs. Concentration camp type "stability" is fine with them."
"Concentration camp style of "stability," - that's exactly what's coming after these "strong men" are gone.
The crazy Islamism. The ISIS.
One needs to know when he has it good, VS what the alternative is. We are talking about the realities of the Middle East, not some rosy pictures in your head.
You are correct. That's what it is - "Manifest destiny" basically, not a practical "manual."
It's quite obvious that modern world is ruled by money and America rules money.
There is not much Russians can do in practical sense of it, in changing ( adjusting) the world the way they see it fit. Even when they DO try ( as in case with Afghanistan) Americans are immediately all over the place, counter-attacking them.
Being an older nation, Russians perceive muslims differently than Americans do.
Even the most educated and progressive part of them ( namely Decembrists in the 1800ies) were already designing their plans towards the population of Caucasus. They divided it into "peaceful" and "militant" people. The "peaceful nations" they've said should receive Russian governors and be left in peace, the militant nations should be dispersed throughout Russian lands.
Truth to be told, Russians threw out and downright exterminated radically-Islamic population of Caucasus, considering it to be "incorrigible."
Those they deemed to be "absorbable" - they left them alone, and tried to modify ( quite successfully) their culture. Chechnia is only notable exception.
There is a reason Russians didn't deal too much with a lot of Islamic countries ( unlike the Westerners) they didn't meddle ( and still don't meddle) much in them. They just don't consider them to be "compatible" with Christian cultures at all I assume - no chance for assimilation, no chance for change.
Fourteen percent of Russia's population is Muslim. Just for clarification. Islam is the second most widely practiced religion in Russia.
Also, as I outlined in an earlier post (so I won't repeat myself - anyone truly interested can just scroll up a few posts to post #36 to see it), Russia definitely HAS "meddled with" and been involved with the Middle East and Muslim countries - for quite a while.
My gosh, does anyone even think about Russia's involvement in Afghanistan anymore?????? Among other countries - see post #36.
Fourteen percent of Russia's population is Muslim. Just for clarification. Islam is the second most widely practiced religion in Russia.
Yes, but Russian muslims and Middle Eastern muslims are not one and the same thing ( with exception of Chechens for the most part.) This is precisely what I was talking about earlier.
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Also, as I outlined in an earlier post (so I won't repeat myself - anyone truly interested can just scroll up a few posts to post #36 to see it), Russia definitely HAS "meddled with" and been involved with the Middle East and Muslim countries - for quite a while.
My gosh, does anyone even think about Russia's involvement in Afghanistan anymore?????? Among other countries - see post #36.
Please DO tell us about Russian involvement in Afghanistan.
I posted some of it already and if you're interested in more, I believe I supplied links. In any case, it's very easy information to find.
You do know that Russia invaded Afghanistan and that the subsequent war lasted for ten years and resulted in over a million civilian deaths, right?
Right. So let's look into it, shall we?
"Prior to the arrival of Soviet troops, the pro-Soviet Nur Mohammad Taraki government took power in a 1978 coup and initiated a series of radical modernization reforms throughout the country.[27] Vigorously suppressing any opposition from among the traditional Muslim Afghans, the government arrested thousands and executed as many of 27,000 political prisoners.[28] By April 1979 large parts of the country were in open rebellion and by December the government had lost control of territory outside of the cities.[29] In response to Afghan government requests, the Soviet government under leader Leonid Brezhnev first sent covert troops to advise and support the Afghani government, but on December 24, 1979, began the first deployment of the 40th Army.[30] Arriving in the capital Kabul, they staged a coup,[31] killing the Afghan President, and installing a rival Afghan socialist (Babrak Karmal).[2"
So there we go; unwilling to have bozo Islamic state on their border (the border where predominantly there was Islamic population of Russia by the way) Russians ( for understandable reasons) wanted to have a SOCIALIST ( yet another strongman I suppose) to rule that neighboring Islamic country.
And whom did Americans support in this conflict right away?
Let's see here...
" The Soviet–Afghan War lasted over nine years from December 1979 to February 1989. Insurgent groups ("the Mujahideen") who received substantial aid from the United States and several Muslim countries, fought against the Soviet Army and allied Afghan forces."
Now should we look up the definition of those mentioned above "Mujahideen"?
"guerrilla fighters in Islamic countries, especially those who are fighting against non-Muslim forces."
"Prior to the arrival of Soviet troops, the pro-Soviet Nur Mohammad Taraki government took power in a 1978 coup and initiated a series of radical modernization reforms throughout the country.[27] Vigorously suppressing any opposition from among the traditional Muslim Afghans, the government arrested thousands and executed as many of 27,000 political prisoners.[28] By April 1979 large parts of the country were in open rebellion and by December the government had lost control of territory outside of the cities.[29] In response to Afghan government requests, the Soviet government under leader Leonid Brezhnev first sent covert troops to advise and support the Afghani government, but on December 24, 1979, began the first deployment of the 40th Army.[30] Arriving in the capital Kabul, they staged a coup,[31] killing the Afghan President, and installing a rival Afghan socialist (Babrak Karmal).[2"
So there we go; unwilling to have bozo Islamic state on their border (the border where predominantly there was Islamic population of Russia by the way) Russians ( for understandable reasons) wanted to have a SOCIALIST ( yet another strongman I suppose) to rule that neighboring Islamic country.
And whom did Americans support in this conflict right away?
Let's see here...
" The Soviet–Afghan War lasted over nine years from December 1979 to February 1989. Insurgent groups ("the Mujahideen") who received substantial aid from the United States and several Muslim countries, fought against the Soviet Army and allied Afghan forces."
Now should we look up the definition of those mentioned above "Mujahideen"?
"guerrilla fighters in Islamic countries, especially those who are fighting against non-Muslim forces."
So there we go.
The reason why I did not use this Wiki source as any sort of validation is because of this very prominently displayed message across the top of it:
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So there we go.
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Among other countries - see post #36.