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Old 09-10-2015, 08:50 PM
 
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France finally succeeded in reversing its declining birth rates/population only rather recently. However when you dig into the numbers the largest increases are coming from immigrant women (mostly from African nations).

Refugee Crisis 2015: Could Syrians Help Europe's Aging Population Problem?


Truth to tell France has had declining fertility rates off and on IIRC since just after the Revolution but certainly post WWI. When you add low fertility rates to the carnage of two world wars, mass deportation and murder (usually) of Jews during WWII along with a few other factors yes, many areas of France have been depopulating for years. No, you don't see it say in Paris, but go some small villages or towns in the south or north.
Right.
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Old 09-10-2015, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Fishers, IN
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America should shut up and keep it's nose out then.
Isn't the U.S. also being criticized for not doing enough in Syria?
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Old 09-10-2015, 09:18 PM
 
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Isn't the U.S. also being criticized for not doing enough in Syria?

The US will get criticized regardless of how much or little they do.
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Old 09-10-2015, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Slovakia
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Because we care about our safety and are not willing to accept this mass invasion full of economic migrants, psychically desperate people who one day can kill everything around them when their psychic deteriorate, there are IS fighters among them already caught in Hungary (or Serbia) and most important they are LOUD.

Moreover these people don't need anything, they were given food, water or clothes and often they threw it away. Only thing they want is "Germany" and when you ask them why, the answer is "money".

Germans called them here so let them have their "new Germans".
By rejecting them we actually help Germany to reach their goal to have 800 000 of them in their country.
BTW I read that Saudi Arabia offered Germany they will invest to build 200 new mosques

Saudi Arabia offers Germany 200 mosques - one for every 100 refugees who arrived last weekend - Europe - World - The Independent

so Germany can profit from this situation and improve the GDP.

It's like migrant "happy hour"
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Old 09-10-2015, 09:35 PM
 
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"While Europe Slept" is a good book written about 10 yrs ago about this very subject.
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Old 09-11-2015, 12:53 AM
 
Location: Romania
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Romanians definitely hate Muslims (there were rallies against building a big mosque in Bucharest recently) and our president Klaus Iohannis expressed Romania's will against sharing a quota of immigrants:

President Iohannis voices dissatisfaction with mandatory immigrant quotas


At least one German that is not crazy.
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Old 09-11-2015, 03:56 AM
 
Location: Vik
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The US will get criticized regardless of how much or little they do.
The US should really just sit back, relax and enjoy. Between Europe, Merkel and Putin they all are going to ********** up real good.

Both Germany and Sweden has unemployment rates pretty high - and the new mass immigration is going to add to that.

We are only a few muslim terrorist attacks away before right wing extremists are going to use this for what is worth.

History repeats itself.
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Old 09-11-2015, 05:10 AM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
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France finally succeeded in reversing its declining birth rates/population only rather recently. However when you dig into the numbers the largest increases are coming from immigrant women (mostly from African nations).

Refugee Crisis 2015: Could Syrians Help Europe's Aging Population Problem?


Truth to tell France has had declining fertility rates off and on IIRC since just after the Revolution but certainly post WWI. When you add low fertility rates to the carnage of two world wars, mass deportation and murder (usually) of Jews during WWII along with a few other factors yes, many areas of France have been depopulating for years. No, you don't see it say in Paris, but go some small villages or towns in the south or north.
I believe Paris (city) is declining, but really, there are about 6 or 7 million more people now than 30 years ago.

The places where I grew up have all seen an increase in population, growth, there are more houses now, highways, etc, and it's not only migrant-based, far from that.

France's policy since the war has been to help fertility by allowing families money for their children.

In France I always feel like I can go everywhere and see mothers pushing their babies in push carts.

In Italy I mostly see old people being transported in push carts by Ukrainian or Romanian women. Quite a difference.
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Old 09-11-2015, 07:17 AM
 
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The US will get criticized regardless of how much or little they do.
No, the US won't get criticized if it just stayed out of Middle East from the beginning, completely, instead of indirectly causing the mess and pretending it is Europe's problem.

The best thing that could happen to world peace is for the US to return to its isolationist policy and never care about anything beyond North America. Millions of lives would have been saved.
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Old 09-11-2015, 07:20 AM
 
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The US should really just sit back, relax and enjoy. Between Europe, Merkel and Putin they all are going to ********** up real good.

Both Germany and Sweden has unemployment rates pretty high - and the new mass immigration is going to add to that.
Germany has an unemployment rate of 4.7%, lower than that of the US (5.5%).

Of course the US will sit back and enjoy the show. It created this mess (much like the euro crisis to a large extent as well).
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