Quick, And Vast Magical Country Boundaries. Is There Emerging Updates On Any Extra Nations Or Modified National Borders? (cost, living)

Originally Posted by Ariete

Not possible, as it would leave Finland as an outcast, and Sweden can't accept that. Either it's all 5 (or 4 if Iceland isn't interested), or nothing.

Finland is Nordic, despite technically not Scandinavian. Historically, Norway-Sweden were much closer together. A degree of mutual intelligibility between their native language Swedish-Norwegian. Finland's language is entirely outside of the Scandinavian group, and closer to Hungarian in Central Europe Uralic language family group, including Estonian.

Classification of Hungarian, Finnish, Estonian in the same language group really don't make them have too much isolation with cognitive language communication comprehension understanding in reality.

Wow, Finnish is your native language before English! What is your own experience of the Finnish language, especially compared to other languages?

Honestly, people are speaking too much English in Sweden, and Norway. Too much not appropriate code switching between various languages. They have to preserve their own native language. I wonder what the situation is in Finland with speaking enough Finnish not too much English.

What is Finland-Estonia relations in recent times right now? Is there ever a potential emerging unification?

Originally Posted by roadrat

I seriously doubt there will be any new nations in Europe, although there will be many little "no go zones"in places like Germany, France, Sweden, Places were locals and local officials won't go.

Wrong. Someone hasn't visited anywhere of Europe a very long time for decades or ever at all. Oblivion warped false delusion of the wrong attitude total polar opposite of reality.

Many countries of Europe rank higher on Global Peace Index than USA of North America. In fact, every European country(Including Czech Republic, Austria, Slovakia, Romania, France, Spain, Italy, etc.) except Belarus, Ukraine, Russia. They are all more peaceful. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...eace_Index.svg


There aren't really any no go zones in France, Sweden, or Germany. They are all entirely accessible everywhere, and completely safe to travel all over the country.

The only country in Europe with no go zones lately is really only Ukraine East of Odessa-Kiev-South of Kharkiv in the far southeast. Even all of Western Ukraine starting around Odessa to Lviv is safe enough.

[mym]

i dont know man, i dont believe in go-no zones but even Equatorial Guinea ranks higher than usa on this global peace index thing. i think its broken.

oops, that was 2014. usa has surpassed them in 2015. they are now behind Gambia

Originally Posted by jtur88

There are numerous possibilities in the Caucasus region, with Ossetia, Nagorno-Karabakh, etc. Also Transdniestria already a de facto entity.

Well, the Georgia topic is encapsulating those in between Europe, and Asia countries label, and they are not really mainland Europe.

On the Europe mainland, Montenegro, and Kosovo are the latest ones breaking away from Serbia much later than 2000. You are right on ultra eccentric Transnistria, a tiny sliver of land on Moldova the country territory wanting to break away. Doesn't make any rational sense, equally as much as Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Chechnya, and to a lesser extent Dagestan.

I hope Catalonia never separates outside of Spain.

[seixal]

Scotland, Catalonia, and the Basque becoming independent entities in the near future is plausible.

[Ariete]

Originally Posted by

Finland is Nordic, despite technically not Scandinavian. Historically, Norway-Sweden were much closer together. A degree of mutual intelligibility between their native language Swedish-Norwegian. Finland's language is entirely outside of the Scandinavian group, and closer to Hungarian in Central Europe Uralic language family group, including Estonian.

Classification of Hungarian, Finnish, Estonian in the same language group really don't make them have too much isolation with cognitive language communication comprehension understanding in reality.

Wow, Finnish is your native language before English! What is your own experience of the Finnish language, especially compared to other languages?

Honestly, people are speaking too much English in Sweden, and Norway. Too much not appropriate code switching between various languages. They have to preserve their own native language. I wonder what the situation is in Finland with speaking enough Finnish not too much English.

What is Finland-Estonia relations in recent times right now? Is there ever a potential emerging unification?

Considering that Finland was a part of Sweden for 700 years, is pretty much as close as you can get. After all, Southern and Central Finland were longer a part of Sweden than Scania or Northern Sweden has been Sweden. Almost 10% of Swedes have Finnish heritage, and almost the same percentage of Finns have Swedish heritage.

English has infiltrated business, academics and corporate speak, but not as much as in Sweden and Norway. As Finnish is an unique language, people do their best to preserve it. Mixing Finnish with English phrases is considered quite uneducated and not welcomed.

Actually, Swedish is my native language, also a remnant of our mutual history. I speak both Finnish and Swedish fluently, though.

Finland-Estonia relations are good, but a unification seems impossible. Considering that Finland has over 4 times more people and 10 times the economy of Estonia, it would not be an equal treaty, and Estonia would be relegated merely to a colony of Finland. I doubt they want that.

Originally Posted by Ariete

Considering that Finland was a part of Sweden for 700 years, is pretty much as close as you can get. After all, Southern and Central Finland were longer a part of Sweden than Scania or Northern Sweden has been Sweden. Almost 10% of Swedes have Finnish heritage, and almost the same percentage of Finns have Swedish heritage.

English has infiltrated business, academics and corporate speak, but not as much as in Sweden and Norway. As Finnish is an unique language, people do their best to preserve it. Mixing Finnish with English phrases is considered quite uneducated and not welcomed.

Actually, Swedish is my native language, also a remnant of our mutual history. I speak both Finnish and Swedish fluently, though.

Finland-Estonia relations are good, but a unification seems impossible. Considering that Finland has over 4 times more people and 10 times the economy of Estonia, it would not be an equal treaty, and Estonia would be relegated merely to a colony of Finland. I doubt they want that.

Surprising they aren't having the same language group classification despite all of the long lasting centuries attempt of integration between Sweden, and Finland. Why hasn't this affected the Finnish isolated Uralic status?

Another confusion barrier is ultimate separation between Nordic vs. Scandinavian.

Wow, you know up to 3 languages, including English as a third language. I bet you have equal preference with all three of them. A vast majority of my life I knew only one language. Really spiritually rewarding and empowering to have learnt bilingual Romanian. Finally understanding more than sufficient fluency, and wanting to learn more. In retrospect, I even obtained some Mandarin Chinese around high school.


Devastating news if Norway, Sweden, and Finland are absorbing too much English slowly eroding some of their major native language realms away. Even worse around the Netherlands, and Denmark. Why is anyone wanting to ruin their own native culture without trying to preserve enough of their native language? Transcending through academics is going too far. There are lots of universal, and equally important languages. Not only English.

Very strange some musicians of Norway, Sweden, Finland, Iceland, Denmark are not singing or communicating with their own native languages. When was the last time Royksopp, or Bjork performed outside of English technically? Wow. When you go to native Finnish band music concerts are they at least singing Finnish language songs? At least we have Sigur Ros from Iceland staying equally popular.

Estonia might have an equal amount of common similarities to Finland compared with relations with Lithuania, and Latvia. Certainly infinitely more Russian Slavic than anything of Finland.

Ironically, very exhilarating to have such an alien city of Saint Petersburg Russia that close by to Southeastern Finland, and Tallinn Estonia.

[cattledog69]

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Devastating news if Norway, Sweden, and Finland are absorbing too much English slowly eroding some of their major native language realms away. Even worse around the Netherlands, and Denmark. Why is anyone wanting to ruin their own native culture without trying to preserve enough of their native language? Transcending through academics is going too far. There are lots of universal, and equally important languages. Not only English.

Very strange some musicians of Norway, Sweden, Finland, Iceland, Denmark are not singing or communicating with their own native languages. When was the last time Royksopp, or Bjork performed outside of English technically? Wow. When you go to native Finnish band music concerts are they at least singing Finnish language songs? At least we have Sigur Ros from Iceland staying equally popular.

How do you mean "slowly eroding away"? It's not like the Dutch or Danish languages are dying out. There's just a second language (or fourth since most people here also speak German and/or French) added to the vocabulary. Some people have problems with this and there's even an organisation against the "English-ization" of our language but I think that's a bit exaggerated.

Most people here are multilingual and we use a lot of English words that started since WWII, but the same goes for French, German and Latin words which we used long before that time. We've always been a country of traders so the use of other languages comes natural and is needed.

[Jakral]

Originally Posted by

Very strange some musicians of Norway, Sweden, Finland, Iceland, Denmark are not singing or communicating with their own native languages. When was the last time Royksopp, or Bjork performed outside of English technically?

Not strange at all. There are a bunch of them trying to break through on the international market and you can't do that singing in Norwegian, so you adapt to the unwritten rules. The language of international pop music is English. We have plenty of other artists singing in Nordic languages for the domestic markets. Nordic music will always be much more than whatever makes the charts abroad.

[Boert]

All countries in western Europe will remain the same.