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They are hosting thousants of immigrants from Syria and persian countries - only those who can provide cheap work labour. I wouldn't say that Germany prasies a high work ethics.
Eastern countries like Japan and South Korea are famous for highly motivated and honest workers.
VOLKSWAGEN AND FRIENDS 1: The Volkswagen Group received more than €4 billion in loans from the European Investment Bank over the last decade, with much of the money going to research aimed at developing cleaner engines, POLITICO Pro reports: http://politi.co/1YP9xbH. And according to the Guardian, a wide range of cars emit more pollution in realistic driving tests, data shows. Diesel cars made by Renault, Nissan, Hyundai, Citroen, Fiat and Volvo among others emitted far more NOx than consumers have been led to believe: http://bit.ly/1MHeBYZ
VOLKSWAGEN AND FRIENDS 2 — COMMISSIONER OETTINGER, TO BE PRECISE: Stern reports thatGünther Oettinger, then European energy commissioner and now digital commissioner, acted on instructions from the German car lobby in order to torpedo higher emissions standards, according to documents:http://bit.ly/1LQhPL3
DID VOLKSWAGEN’S AD AGENCY BLACKMAIL FRENCH NEWSPAPERS? “Le Canard enchaîné” has published an email it received from Volkswagen’s media buying agency MediaCom, telling it not to publish negative stories about the company if it wanted to keep advertising the company had booked. http://bit.ly/1N2gCBY
This could end up being as big as subprime for Germany. I could well imagine other German manufacturers have been at this as well and the cost of writing down the huge VW fleet which includes brands like Skoda will be huge.
I was already reading about massive writedowns on car stock having to be priced in by massive European car rental companies.
The hypocrisy shown by VW on this issue is astounding. It will open the door for Koreans who honestly have struggled to get their emissions down, to be fair they were actually playing by the rules in the main..
I'm split on this. On one hand, VW has indeed behaved disgracefully and heads should roll.....probably into prison. It's a shock as we are used to German industry not only being world leading, but holding the moral high ground. Very keen on environmental issues, nice to their workers, co-operative with their unions, etc etc. All part of Germany being the model of the European Liberal Democracy.
So when they're found out being as dirty and corrupt as everyone else, our perception is indeed challenged. Along with Merkel's total mess-up over the migrant issue, it seems Germany is not as infallible as we thought. Its population is used to things going, broadly, right. I would imagine there is some domestic soul searching going on.
On the other hand, the sight of the USA getting all litigious over polluting cars is almost hysterically funny. This is the nation that subsidises petrol/diesel to the extent the locals think a dollar a gallon is the going rate. It loves huge, greedy, polluting engines - as anyone who stands on Mid Willshire and observes 6 lanes of stationary traffic all pumping out fumes will know. I suspect the vigour with which they are pursuing VW would be somewhat diluted were it an American company doing the dirty.
I doubt VW are the only culprits. I drive a BMW 640D, and fearing the worst with my tax implications (and depreciation).
I'm split on this. On one hand, VW has indeed behaved disgracefully and heads should roll.....probably into prison. It's a shock as we are used to German industry not only being world leading, but holding the moral high ground. Very keen on environmental issues, nice to their workers, co-operative with their unions, etc etc. All part of Germany being the model of the European Liberal Democracy.
So when they're found out being as dirty and corrupt as everyone else, our perception is indeed challenged. Along with Merkel's total mess-up over the migrant issue, it seems Germany is not as infallible as we thought. Its population is used to things going, broadly, right. I would imagine there is some domestic soul searching going on.
On the other hand, the sight of the USA getting all litigious over polluting cars is almost hysterically funny. This is the nation that subsidises petrol/diesel to the extent the locals think a dollar a gallon is the going rate. It loves huge, greedy, polluting engines - as anyone who stands on Mid Willshire and observes 6 lanes of stationary traffic all pumping out fumes will know. I suspect the vigour with which they are pursuing VW would be somewhat diluted were it an American company doing the dirty.
I doubt VW are the only culprits. I drive a BMW 640D, and fearing the worst with my tax implications (and depreciation).
I agree with most of this post, but as to the bolded, yeah, I wish. American fuel is comparatively cheap, but it hasn't been a dollar a gallon since the 1980s.
I'm split on this. On one hand, VW has indeed behaved disgracefully and heads should roll.....probably into prison. It's a shock as we are used to German industry not only being world leading, but holding the moral high ground. Very keen on environmental issues, nice to their workers, co-operative with their unions, etc etc. All part of Germany being the model of the European Liberal Democracy.
So when they're found out being as dirty and corrupt as everyone else, our perception is indeed challenged. Along with Merkel's total mess-up over the migrant issue, it seems Germany is not as infallible as we thought. Its population is used to things going, broadly, right. I would imagine there is some domestic soul searching going on.
On the other hand, the sight of the USA getting all litigious over polluting cars is almost hysterically funny. This is the nation that subsidises petrol/diesel to the extent the locals think a dollar a gallon is the going rate. It loves huge, greedy, polluting engines - as anyone who stands on Mid Willshire and observes 6 lanes of stationary traffic all pumping out fumes will know. I suspect the vigour with which they are pursuing VW would be somewhat diluted were it an American company doing the dirty.
I doubt VW are the only culprits. I drive a BMW 640D, and fearing the worst with my tax implications (and depreciation).
The whole polluting car effort was in fact driven by California with the vehicle being the CARB. The rest of the nation and the world was pretty much dragged into polution control by California kicking and screaming all the way.
I agree with most of this post, but as to the bolded, yeah, I wish. American fuel is comparatively cheap, but it hasn't been a dollar a gallon since the 1980s.
But otherwise, very astute post.
Maybe he meant a dollar per liter? Which is still a joke compared to what we pay, lol.
Anyways, a scam like this was to be expected IMO. With the regulations on emissions getting harder and harder and competition making the prices only lower for still better quality i'm not surprised this has happened.
I'm split on this. On one hand, VW has indeed behaved disgracefully and heads should roll.....probably into prison. It's a shock as we are used to German industry not only being world leading, but holding the moral high ground. Very keen on environmental issues, nice to their workers, co-operative with their unions, etc etc. All part of Germany being the model of the European Liberal Democracy.
So when they're found out being as dirty and corrupt as everyone else, our perception is indeed challenged. Along with Merkel's total mess-up over the migrant issue, it seems Germany is not as infallible as we thought. Its population is used to things going, broadly, right. I would imagine there is some domestic soul searching going on.
On the other hand, the sight of the USA getting all litigious over polluting cars is almost hysterically funny. This is the nation that subsidises petrol/diesel to the extent the locals think a dollar a gallon is the going rate. It loves huge, greedy, polluting engines - as anyone who stands on Mid Willshire and observes 6 lanes of stationary traffic all pumping out fumes will know. I suspect the vigour with which they are pursuing VW would be somewhat diluted were it an American company doing the dirty.
I doubt VW are the only culprits. I drive a BMW 640D, and fearing the worst with my tax implications (and depreciation).
Would you care to identify how, where and why the US subsidizes petrol/diesel?
Do you have any evidence to support your claim? Or are you just allowing your bias to rule.
There are lots of instances where both the states individually and collectively, plus the Feds separately, have gone after companies all across the industrial spectrum, from Ford and GM, to Enron, Big Tobacco, Big Pharma and Wall St. Penalties for law breaking tend to be more severe in the US than EU.
I have been saying it for a long time, modern Germany is one big fake. It is not only VW, there have been other scandals involving Siemens etc., there is corruption and a lot of dubious lobbying. Checks on the industry are weak, which is why pharmaceutical companies like it so much there. Or think of the new airport in Berlin, a total disaster in terms of planning, financing, construction, and schedule. Or think of the mess regarding nuclear energy, they have been producing that toxic stuff for decades and nobody wants it. So they put it in barrels and placed them in some old mine in Lower Saxony. Meanwhile they have noticed it is inappropriate and again nobody knows what to do with the nuclear trash they have to recover from that site.
The German military is also a big mess, a lot of their equipment is broken, there is mismanagement everywhere.
In terms of work ethics as such, Germany is infamous for the high percentage of employees who hate their jobs and have already "mentally quit" their jobs.
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