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Old 09-29-2015, 10:25 PM
 
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Does anyone find the fraud scandal involving major German car maker Volkswagen guilty of secretly implementing devices into their automobiles to crack CO2 emissions tests and meet the American car pollution requirements, after the German government and many Germans scorned, ridiculed, humiliated, bullied countries in bail-out situations after fraudulently disguising their real deficit rate?
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Old 09-29-2015, 10:27 PM
 
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The two issues aren't comparable, so I'm not exactly sure what point you are trying to make.
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Old 09-29-2015, 10:36 PM
 
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Does anyone find the fraud scandal involving major German car maker Volkswagen guilty of secretly implementing devices into their automobiles to crack CO2 emissions tests and meet the American car pollution requirements, after the German government and many Germans scorned, ridiculed, humiliated, bullied countries in bail-out situations after fraudulently disguising their real deficit rate?
I was an engineering manager for a major US company. No way ever to go there. You end up trapped and can't get out. And in the end it is a disaster.

What can you ever do to fix it. Buy back 10 million cars? $200 billion dollars?

Practically you can't fix it because your buyer is not going to bring in their car so you can make it perform badly. They would have to be nuts. So you end up buying it back. then what do you do with it. Resell it as a dog? In a month some entrepreneur will be selling the old software to restore performance.

I would think everyone in authority on this one should go to jail...for at least a while. If you did not have sense enough to quit you deserve it. Any that did quit or retire should be brought back.
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Old 09-29-2015, 10:40 PM
 
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Good piece from Tuesday's NYT.

GERMANY — UNRELIABLE GERMANY ANALYZED IN VOLKSWAGEN’S WAKE: Roger Cohen of the New York Times, a nuanced observer of Europe, offers this thought-provoking opinion piece. “Germany’s leading company has toyed with the air people breathe. That’s shocking. In historical context, it’s devastating. The Volkswagen scandal elicits more than dismay. It is one of those moments when the entire culture of a nation — in this case one of scrupulous honesty, acceptance of rules, reliability, environmental sensitivity and atoning dedication to the common good — is called into question. Germany is never quite what it seems. There is a strain between its order and its urges. Formality may mask frenzy. When things go wrong, they tend to go wrong in a big way.” http://nyti.ms/1FyIzyN h/t Daniel Lippman.
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Old 09-29-2015, 10:49 PM
 
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It's ironic and hypocritical when Germany seems such a big believer in Global Warming to have its largest company be such a cheater and polluter of the air and environment.
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Old 09-29-2015, 10:54 PM
 
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Actually the amazing thing is they continued to do it. One would have thought that a rational operation would have either figured out how to fix the thing in a year or two or three or discontinued the product line to cut the losses.

These guy were simply mad...out of their minds. Hang them...for blatant stupidity if nothing else.
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Old 09-29-2015, 11:59 PM
 
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We should all switch to Korean or Japanese cars from now on. Made in Germany is no longer as good as made in West Germany
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Old 09-30-2015, 01:04 AM
 
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Schadenfreude anyone?
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Old 09-30-2015, 01:16 AM
 
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Volkswagen is a huge international corporation. When they have meetings they are held in English.
It in no way represents Germany or the German people. No more so than Chrysler represents the people of USA.
The only thing it represents is capitalism and greed.
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Old 09-30-2015, 02:23 AM
 
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Volkswagen is a huge international corporation. When they have meetings they are held in English.
It in no way represents Germany or the German people. No more so than Chrysler represents the people of USA.
The only thing it represents is capitalism and greed.
That is true. I guess Americans have forgotten about Enron. It was the 7th-largest company in the US 15 years ago. The huge scandal even brought down their auditor, Arthur Andersen.
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