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Old 11-16-2015, 10:28 AM
 
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3.There are many French citizens, particularly of North African ancestry, who hate the country they live in.

Did you ever stop to ask yourself why a Frenchman, whose GRANDFATHER came from Algeria, and who will NOT be accepted as Algerian, should he visit there. will hate the only country that he knows.

Maybe France hates HIM, as it does most of those who don't conform to the Gallic notion of what being French is.
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Old 11-16-2015, 10:30 AM
 
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None of this is true.

At least one of the terrorists was a refugee, who passed through Greece in October of this year.

None of the terrorists appear to be "100% French". They are all either migrants or immigrants/descendants of immigrants.

They found a passport. Do we know if it wasn't stolen? Do we know if it wasn't planted in a macabre plot by ISIS for Europe to prevent the entry of Syrian refugees?
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Old 11-16-2015, 10:34 AM
 
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.. This points out the problem with Muslim immigration to Europe. ..

And here is the problem with France. How can some one, whose GRANDPARENTS comes from another country, and whose culture reflects the neighborhood where he lives, be an immigrant?

You do know that we don't have the grand kids of Arab immigrant creating havoc in the suburbs of Detroit, which has a large Arab population. Why is this a problem in France?
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Old 11-16-2015, 10:36 AM
 
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.that Parisian society with the average man called Mohammed Ben Chetiff, wearing La Coste tracksuits, displaying a Bronx copy-cat ghetto attitude, miles away from the stereotype.

And this style is FRENCH. Not Algerian. France needs to admit that there are many ways to be French. Not only Pierre with his baguette.
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Old 11-16-2015, 10:37 AM
 
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They found a passport. Do we know if it wasn't stolen? Do we know if it wasn't planted in a macabre plot by ISIS for Europe to prevent the entry of Syrian refugees?
I have no idea. What does this have to do with what I wrote?
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Old 11-16-2015, 10:38 AM
 
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And this style is FRENCH. Not Algerian. France needs to admit that there are many ways to be French. Not only Pierre with his baguette.
Mohammed is not a French name. Don't be daft. None of the terrorists had a French background.
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Old 11-16-2015, 10:39 AM
 
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.. They need more educated Asian and Indian immigrants, and less future "gangsta's."

There is a reason why France gets the least educated immigrants, while the USA, Canada, Australia and to a lesser degree, the UK, gets the more educated ones.

France needs to examine this, instead of screaming that the descendants of people who arrived 60 years ago are still immigrants.
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Old 11-16-2015, 10:41 AM
 
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All those wonderful benefits of immigration.

Don't know if you are French, but if you are no wonder immigrants have a problem there.

If you are American, you are a bigot when any data shows that many immigrants and their kids are outperforming Americans.
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Old 11-16-2015, 10:44 AM
 
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., you can assimilate small amounts of population but that many is definitely a challenge.

NYC is 40% immigrant, yet the words out of most politicians' mouths are about pride in the diversity and about the contribution of immigrants. In fact immigrants are MORE likely to be working, and MORE likely to open businesses.

Now why is Paris so different?
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Old 11-16-2015, 10:45 AM
 
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The perpetrator, Ismaël Omar Mostefaï, was as French as his name sounds. He probably didn't consider himself French not more that he was accepted as such by French natives. Being a citizen of a country is a legal status matter that can change "at will", ethnicity is something you're born into and will follow you until the day you die and after.
It is true that quite a few people like him who were born in France and are citizens do not feel French, but there are other people with names like Zinedine Zidane, Jamel Debbouze, Nagui Fam, etc. who do feel French.

People shouldn't be judged based on their names. They should be judged on what they do.
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