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Old 01-30-2016, 08:04 AM
 
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Russian economic are doubble size under Germanies.

Russia also are poor country with old portion Soviets.
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Old 01-30-2016, 09:53 AM
 
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Russian economic are doubble size under Germanies.

Russia also are poor country with old portion Soviets.

Sorry, what's your native tongue ( so that we could understand your English better, kinda)))
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Old 01-31-2016, 08:45 AM
 
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US is at the start of another recession itself, housing prices have picked out, stock market is in stale mode for the second year in a row, companies profits went down.

Russia's problem is that it pays too much attention to how West operates economically instead of minding their own business, and the West itself is in trouble already - they need constant wars just to stimulate their economies.
The western economy paradigm is based on permanent growth and nothing can grow indefinitely, as long as growth slows down, like in China now, everything falls apart in the west. The same paradigm is what is killing our planet too - it stimulates over consumption and over consumption leads to great and unnecessary pollution.
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Old 01-31-2016, 10:10 AM
 
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US is at the start of another recession itself, housing prices have picked out, stock market is in stale mode for the second year in a row, companies profits went down.
LOL! Is that what Putin is now claiming?

The U.S. has the fastest economic growth of any major first world country. It's already the richest major country on earth, and its economy is basically the envy of the world.
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Russia's problem is that it pays too much attention to how West operates economically instead of minding their own business, and the West itself is in trouble already - they need constant wars just to stimulate their economies.
Yes, obviously Russia shouldn't follow the wealthy, advanced countries of the World; Russia should follow its wonderful Soviet economic model and continue to "invest" in foreign invasions, insider corruption and domestic purges instead of investing in education and research...

The one good thing about Russia's collapse is that it keeps neighboring countries safer. A poorer, weaker Russia means foreign invasions of the Baltics and Central Asia are less likely.
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Old 01-31-2016, 10:51 AM
 
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LOL! Is that what Putin is now claiming?

The U.S. has the fastest economic growth of any major first world country. It's already the richest major country on earth, and its economy is basically the envy of the world.

Yes, obviously Russia shouldn't follow the wealthy, advanced countries of the World; Russia should follow its wonderful Soviet economic model and continue to "invest" in foreign invasions, insider corruption and domestic purges instead of investing in education and research...

The one good thing about Russia's collapse is that it keeps neighboring countries safer. A poorer, weaker Russia means foreign invasions of the Baltics and Central Asia are less likely.
The oil crisis is real though and many conditions are similar to the 1929 crisis.
The fact that the paradigm of the West is an infinite growth is real too.
The fact that the US have waged more wars in the last 25 years than Russia, China and Iran combined is true as well.
You can't omit quoting the part you don't like.
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Old 01-31-2016, 10:55 AM
 
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The oil crisis is real though and many conditions are similar to the 1929 crisis.
The fact that the paradigm of the West is an infinite growth is real too.
The fact that the US have waged more wars in the last 25 years than Russia, China and Iran combined is true as well.
You can't omit quoting the part you don't like.
Not sure what point you're trying to make. The U.S. has engaged in wars because it's the world's hegemon, Europe has no capacity to do so, and Europe and U.S. allies rely on the U.S. for self-defense.

What does this have to do with Russian economic collapse, Putin's foreign invasions, and the endemic corruption and purging that plagues Russian society today?

Is your claim that Russia is allowed to kill its people with impuinity as long as other countries in the world are less-than-perfect too? Quite a bizarre claim. Hitler was allowed to kill millions because France and the UK were far from perfect?
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Old 01-31-2016, 11:08 AM
 
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Not sure what point you're trying to make. The U.S. has engaged in wars because it's the world's hegemon, Europe has no capacity to do so, and Europe and U.S. allies rely on the U.S. for self-defense.

What does this have to do with Russian economic collapse, Putin's foreign invasions, and the endemic corruption and purging that plagues Russian society today?

Is your claim that Russia is allowed to kill its people with impuinity as long as other countries in the world are less-than-perfect too? Quite a bizarre claim. Hitler was allowed to kill millions because France and the UK were far from perfect?
The point he is trying to make ( since you apparently seem not to understand it) is that you paint Russia ( and Russia's future ) all in black, while omitting the part that it ain't as rosy for the rest of the world either, the US including. (And that goes to all kind of "invasions" as well.)
Oh, and for Russia "killing its own people with impunity" - please don't shed your tears, since everyone knows by know that they are the crocodile tears.
You can salivate all you want about "Russia's collapse," but it's just that - your wishful thinking)))
Russia is out there to control the US hegemony, and as long as this job is left up to Russia - no worries, Russia is not going anywhere.
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Old 01-31-2016, 11:17 AM
 
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LOL! Is that what Putin is now claiming?

The U.S. has the fastest economic growth of any major first world country. It's already the richest major country on earth, and its economy is basically the envy of the world.

Yes, obviously Russia shouldn't follow the wealthy, advanced countries of the World; Russia should follow its wonderful Soviet economic model and continue to "invest" in foreign invasions, insider corruption and domestic purges instead of investing in education and research...

The one good thing about Russia's collapse is that it keeps neighboring countries safer. A poorer, weaker Russia means foreign invasions of the Baltics and Central Asia are less likely.
The US is not the richest major country on earth. It's the most heavily-indebted nation on earth, has been for decades, and has been sliding more heavily into debt with these wars. To say its economy is the envy of the world is laughable. If you keep waving your little flag and clicking your heels, though, it might come true!


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Old 01-31-2016, 11:27 AM
 
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Not sure what point you're trying to make. The U.S. has engaged in wars because it's the world's hegemon, Europe has no capacity to do so, and Europe and U.S. allies rely on the U.S. for self-defense.

What does this have to do with Russian economic collapse, Putin's foreign invasions, and the endemic corruption and purging that plagues Russian society today?

Is your claim that Russia is allowed to kill its people with impuinity as long as other countries in the world are less-than-perfect too? Quite a bizarre claim. Hitler was allowed to kill millions because France and the UK were far from perfect?
That the US have done far more damages to the world in the last 25 years than Russia, especially if you value stability: does this justify Russian 'invasions'?
No, but the US are far worse and they have done much more damage.
The other points wilfully ignored show that there are many critical points in the US-giant.
Beware, the US are not the evil incarnated but their late foreign policy has been a disaster on such a scale that now the world seem more unstable than ever.
The world can be unipolar and it won't be such for long.
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Old 01-31-2016, 11:32 AM
 
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The point he is trying to make ( since you apparently seem not to understand it) is that you paint Russia ( and Russia's future ) all in black, while omitting the part that it ain't as rosy for the rest of the world either, the US including. (And that goes to all kind of "invasions" as well.)
Then it's a completely stupid point, because the U.S. has nothing to do with Russia's behavior.

The U.S. could be 1000x worse than Stalin or Hitler and it would still not give Putin an excuse to kill his own people, engage in breathtaking corruption, or invade foreign countries.

Again, the U.S. has ZERO to do with the discussion. Any mention of other countries in the context of this thread discussion means you are simply parroting the mindless propaganda of the butchers in the Kremlin.
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