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Originally Posted by Krokodill
I find all those animal right cockcadoo hypocresy. Why don't you visit a chicked farm with 2.000.000 hens in little boxes? Visit a mink farm and watch minks being skinned allibe?
And pigs, animals smarter than dogs and near to human, wisit a pug far and you'll watch 1000000 crazy pigs.
Animal rights..idiocies to appease the conscience of cat lovers.
Cats...they are used for all types of medical experiments, of course, not publicised.
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Animal rights individuals and groups and animal welfare professionals and students do visit farms, also mink farms and sometimes even slaughter houses. Also those called radicals try to sneak under the surface to explose things.
Like I told my earlier posts, farming is one problem. It is a field which is secured by industry and laws and business so it is slow to change. We do try and some good things also already happened. Animal welfare is growing "business". Question is why a farmer would want more money to treat animals well and doing their jobs, that I don't understand. Why such animal haters wanted to do that job at first place? One reason is that small farms cannot financially respond. There is lot of people who would love to run small farms with care but system madeit impossible.
Skinning fur animals alive is unfortunately true in asia, they also use dog and cat, but very few cases ended up to anyones knowledge from the west. I heard one case and that was not intentional. But there is also other problems as artificial insemination which causes pain and stress. It would be great if people would say no to fur industry. Also when people campaigned against dog and cat fur decorations, many brands stopped using them. Also some outdoors sporting brand stopped using all fur decorations. Things change but only when people are active.
Science starts to open up to the fact that animals are feeling and thinking creatures with their own communication = speaking skills and social bonds. This is one
big step into better future to animals. It is sad when "it needs to be proved" before animal fields would be obligated to make changes, same with laws. Laws unfortunately comes behind, sometimes long behind and always animal welfare is not a basic on animal protection laws but business, sometimes even into religious matters. In any case at this moment they are made by humans viewpoint when they should be fixed to be from animals viewpoint.
Some countries still view animal as item in law but some are further in progress and they are not items anymore. Kudos for those countries and I hope rest of follow.
Anyway the ice has been broked, it is not a tabu anymore to make studies that shows animals as non -items. Sadly it is wasting many animals lives meanwhile more studies are done and covernments are ready to set animal welfare as priority in business. There should not be farming factory at all, just small ethical ranches.
People like to choose to be blind with things but some people do care. Some people choose to be vegetarian, some only eat free hunted meat, some only use organic meat or freely raised milk, eggs and meats. For example many of those "crazy cat people who speak for animal rights" are vegan. Their cats need meat to be healthy but some of them buy their meat straight from hunters or organicmeat.
I of course wish all people would care but it is good to even care own animals or those "cute" animals, it is better than abuse them all. Better to have little disney than abuse all..
Also visiting farms ae often leaded and there is very rare farmers who would let you go everywhere. Some of them even keep few "show-animals" as a pet just to make things look good when visitors are in. Therefore often illegally collected, disguished sneak ins etc. are those who are able to show the misstreating.
But lets remember that some farmers do love their animals and treat them well, those are often small farms where people have time to care. I visited a farm where a guy moved into countryside and created a dairyfarm because likes cows
Some people are happy people as farmers.
But it would be good if people would start to be aware what happends to those who become to their plate. It could be very sad and suffered meat, milk or eggs. All people do not even know their meat was a living animal just before or milk is coming from a cow or eggs are coming from a chicken. They just think they become from foodstore, like it all just grow at foodstores racks..
I don't eat meat myself but my dogs eat organically produced meat. They need meat to live, I don't. I have been active since my young teenager years and there is changes happened into better at some fields but much much more need to be done. Also some good things changed into worse. It is policy fields which are twisting things time to time, worse is businessmen policy, of course.
But everyone can help just by choosing free and organic if is not interested to do more.
We have pet chickens to bring those few eggs that we use. That is a nice hobby and some people choose to do it instead using factory farming eggs. Also chicken meat is eatable also as "old" and if one does not like the taste or eat meat, dogs tend to love it
Lets just appreciate all peoples effort to take a step or 2 into a direction which leads that things would be better to animals. Step by step all fields are finally reached at some day.
If we would have simple solution on this we would done it already. Those who care for what ever animals, makes progress on that field and as all animals has their fans, all has those who try to make things better.
But big mass has to move.
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That's not good. Have you seen what they do to a giant mouse? It's shocking.
It's actually an old recipe coming from the middle of Tuscany but his declarations were enough to get him sacked from public television.
