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Old 02-18-2016, 01:31 PM
 
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I think Europe will eventually catch up.

How working life in France is set to change (for the worse?) - The Local

Europeans are working less now.

I'm not in favor of working to death but it seems whole world will adapt to this.

Also i think Scandinavian countries will modify their model as well
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Old 02-18-2016, 02:17 PM
 
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Also i think Scandinavian countries will modify their model as well
Modify it to what?
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Old 02-18-2016, 02:18 PM
 
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Modify it to what?
More like US.
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Old 02-18-2016, 02:29 PM
 
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More like US.
Not gonna happen.
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Old 02-18-2016, 02:36 PM
 
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Longer hours don't mean that more wealth is created or that the productivity will rise.
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Old 02-18-2016, 02:38 PM
 
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Not gonna happen.
Agreed
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Old 02-18-2016, 02:41 PM
 
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Longer hours don't mean that more wealth is created or that the productivity will rise.
It can add to GDP

They can settle for an additional 0.5% growth.

Better than none.
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Old 02-18-2016, 02:43 PM
 
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Unemployment is down that much? I guess Euros think that revamping a work image would bring more jobs. An eager, desperate and willing Euro worker is a new bait? I dont even want 95% of already available crap, the world is going insane by copying American model.
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Old 02-18-2016, 02:49 PM
 
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Unemployment is down that much? I guess Euros think that revamping a work image would bring more jobs. An eager, desperate and willing Euro worker is a new bait? I dont even want 95% of already available crap, the world is going insane by copying American model.
Europe will compete with China.

Just Euro needs to be devalued massively
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Old 02-18-2016, 03:26 PM
 
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I think Europe will eventually catch up.

How working life in France is set to change (for the worse?) - The Local

Europeans are working less now.

I'm not in favor of working to death but it seems whole world will adapt to this.

Also i think Scandinavian countries will modify their model as well

No, that would mean a big step backwards. We (Germany, at least most) are quite happy that we work fewer and fewer hours. For me working fewer hours is a sign of progress. When I remember correctly, back in the sixties we worked slightly more hours than Americans. Today we work about 400 hours less per year than Americans (if those statistics are correct).
I work 24 hours a week, 3*8 hours and 4*6 hours. I am very happy with that. I don't give a damn **** about the GDP. And I don't feel the need for consuming even more products. A higher GDP doesn't mean more happiness. Most countries with fewer working hours seem to have much fewer social problems. People in Denmark, the Netherlands and Germany work very few hours, but are able to achieve huge current account surplusses. Normally we should work even less hours to reduce the surplusses. And the people have enough time and money to go on holiday.
That's surely different in France. France is urgently in need of reforms. France seems to have very rigid labor market laws. And that in combination with very high public spending, that burdened the French competitiveness.
Maybe the situation in Germany will change somewhat in the future, because of the shrinking working population. The annual worked hours seems already on the rise:

2012: 1,375.3 hours (working pop: 42.060m)
2013: 1,361.7 hours (working pop: 42.328m)
2014: 1,366.4 hours (working pop: 42.703m)
2015: 1,371.0 hours (working pop: 43.032m)

But this developement could also be a result of more working days in the last years. It doesn't seem clear why it's on the rise.
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