Do you think Luxembourgish should be one of the official languages in the EU?

[viribusunitis]

Originally Posted by MagnusPetersson

All true. But a Standard German speaker will not understand much of someone speaking Luxembourgish as its not mutually intelligible, so that is further from Standard German, than Danish is from Swedish.

Luxembourgers however can speak Standard German also because they learn it in school, but the languages are not intelligible (as I have been told by Germans).

Question to German speakers: If its said that Luxembourgish is just a Moselle Franconian (Moselfränkisch) dialect that is a language for political reasons, can't it also be said then that Dutch is just a Low Franconian (Niederfränkisch) dialect that also is a language for political reasons?

Luxembourgish is way more similar to standard German than Dutch.

If one can properly understand it depends on which dialects you are used to. It's the same with all the other variants. Bavarian, Alemannic, whatever. Luxembourgish just standardised some of their rules.

Originally Posted by southbound_295

One of my grandfathers came from the Sued Eifel & I look like that side. If people didn't hear me speaking to my traveling companion I was approached in the local language 100% of the time during 2 trips.

There is a Luxembourgian look?

[southbound_295]

Originally Posted by viribusunitis

Luxembourgish is way more similar to standard German than Dutch.

If one can properly understand it depends on which dialects you are used to. It's the same with all the other variants. Bavarian, Alemannic, whatever. Luxembourgish just standardised some of their rules.



There is a Luxembourgian look?

Keeping in mind that before Napoleon invaded, my ancestors were in villages ruled by Luxembourg & others belonged to the Archbishopric of Trier. I come from some of the oldest, largest families in the area. There is a "look", & when on the Luxembourg side of the border there is the same look but more diversity, a bit more of a French look mixed in.

I said that the cadence is very similar to Dutch. Since you seem to have a problem with that but yet don't seem to have personally heard it, think of it this way. The cadence is the rhythm of a language.

[viribusunitis]

Originally Posted by southbound_295

Keeping in mind that before Napoleon invaded, my ancestors were in villages ruled by Luxembourg & others belonged to the Archbishopric of Trier. I come from some of the oldest, largest families in the area. There is a "look", & when on the Luxembourg side of the border there is the same look but more diversity, a bit more of a French look mixed in.

I said that the cadence is very similar to Dutch. Since you seem to have a problem with that but yet don't seem to have personally heard it, think of it this way. The cadence is the rhythm of a language.

Eh, of course I know what Luxembourgish sounds like. And I can compare it to German since I actually speak that, unlike you I assume. But thanks for the lecture.

[deneb78]

I think Magnus brought up a good point between Danish/Swedish and Czech/Slovak. Are German/Luxembourgish closer and more mutually intelligible than these other 2 language pairs?

[southbound_295]

Originally Posted by viribusunitis

Eh, of course I know what Luxembourgish sounds like. And I can compare it to German since I actually speak that, unlike you I assume. But thanks for the lecture.

Hmmmm. . .I would think that if you had been in the Sued Eifel & Luxembourg you'd be aware that there is a look in about 1/2 of the people in the Sued Eifel, slightly less on the Luxembourg side. I was approached in Dialekt as far from Bitburg as Aachen. A woman from the Bitburg area had traveled there for the day. She mistook me for someone, as was usually the case.

Thanks for the snark. You have a good day.

[GER308]

Originally Posted by southbound_295

Hmmmm. . .I would think that if you had been in the Sued Eifel & Luxembourg you'd be aware that there is a look in about 1/2 of the people in the Sued Eifel, slightly less on the Luxembourg side. I was approached in Dialekt as far from Bitburg as Aachen. A woman from the Bitburg area had traveled there for the day. She mistook me for someone, as was usually the case.

Thanks for the snark. You have a good day.

I can't put my finger on it but I think you are right about the look, there is sort of a look amoung the natives.
Probably all a bit inbread :-D. My ex wife is from the Vulkaneifel by Daun/Ullmen and we lived in the Eifel and on the Mosel by Wittlich together for 7 years before moving to the Kurpfalz.

I learned German in the Eifel and could understand Letzebuergesch mostly. Ran my first Marathon in Echternach and used to rock climb at Berdorf a lot.

[southbound_295]

Originally Posted by GER308

I can't put my finger on it but I think you are right about the look, there is sort of a look amoung the natives.
Probably all a bit inbread :-D. My ex wife is from the Vulkaneifel by Daun/Ullmen and we lived in the Eifel and on the Mosel by Wittlich together for 7 years before moving to the Kurpfalz.

I learned German in the Eifel and could understand Letzebuergesch mostly. Ran my first Marathon in Echternach and used to rock climb at Berdorf a lot.

I'm aware of several of my families being in the area in the 1600s, one married in Diekirch prior to 1520. I don't have the paperwork handy at the moment. Some of the families are huge & over several hundred years many people from the old families are related. When Reagan went to Bitburg the AP released a photo of the cemetery & in the foreground was a female who looked identical to me. I knew that that person existed & apparently there were more.