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Old 06-07-2016, 01:16 PM
 
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When Hitler came to power in March 1933 (whereas the last really free elections were in November 1932), the 44% who voted for him certainly did not do so under the intention of "annihilating Europe/the world, murdering 6 million Jews, causing 80 million deaths" (the last figure being too high). The reason why people voted for him were not so much hatred, but hope for a better economy, employment, the Versailles treaty etc.
Sounds like they(the German people) were pretty stupid not knowing who they were electing. The 30 mil deaths were from starvation(on top of the 50 mil resulted from the war).
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Old 06-07-2016, 07:54 PM
 
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Sounds like they(the German people) were pretty stupid not knowing who they were electing. The 30 mil deaths were from starvation(on top of the 50 mil resulted from the war).

Hopelessness makes people to do unwise choices sometimes.
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Old 06-07-2016, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Hopelessness makes people to do unwise choices sometimes.
the people are the problem. They demand and easy way out an don't care to educate themselves. This is true for every country but still, in Germany's case it wasn't Hitler or any high ranking member of the Nazi party that caused WWII, it was the people, it was their fault and no excuse can make up for what they did.
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Old 06-07-2016, 08:10 PM
 
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the people are the problem. They demand and easy way out an don't care to educate themselves. This is true for every country but still, in Germany's case it wasn't Hitler or any high ranking member of the Nazi party that caused WWII, it was the people, it was their fault and no excuse can make up for what they did.
Right, right, and Islam is "fine" too, I remember now...
It's just a matter of * self-education.*
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Old 06-07-2016, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Right, right, and Islam is "fine" too, I remember now...
It's just a matter of * self-education.*
I take back the Islam comment, I only meant the members of the religion aren't all bad. the actual teachings are
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Old 06-07-2016, 08:16 PM
 
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I take back the Islam comment, I only meant the members of the religion aren't all bad. the actual teachings are

You do? Oh well, that's a start.
Then think about Fascism in the same terms - "the members of the religion aren't all bad. the actual teachings are."
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Old 06-08-2016, 02:05 AM
 
Location: Monnem Germany/ from San Diego
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Sounds like they(the German people) were pretty stupid not knowing who they were electing. The 30 mil deaths were from starvation(on top of the 50 mil resulted from the war).
Hitler promised to "Make Germany great again" The people were desperate for a change, and people anywhere can be manipulated quite well.

The same seems to have a chance of working US.

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Old 06-08-2016, 03:37 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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You do? Oh well, that's a start.
Then think about Fascism in the same terms - "the members of the religion aren't all bad. the actual teachings are."
no, politics are different. people know more about a certain politician than they would like to admit. It is all on them because wither you live in a democracy or not the people are the ones keeping the establishment in power
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Old 06-08-2016, 05:05 AM
 
Location: EU
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Only saw first page. Think this is due to the drastic increase in Muslims now living in Germany.
What do immigrants have to do with how Germans view the US?? Has their stance towards America changed since? Not at all.

It's policy-related only.
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Old 06-08-2016, 12:11 PM
 
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no, politics are different. people know more about a certain politician than they would like to admit.
They know "more" about them NOW, with all the venues that media provides. It was not a case in the first part of the previous century - far away from it.

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It is all on them because wither you live in a democracy or not the people are the ones keeping the establishment in power
You are wrong in your assumptions. To put it bluntly - in *some* countries the *people* ( i.e. the general population) are allowed to be in power ( up to a certain degree,) and in others they are subjected under the thumb of the authorities. ALL nations started from this point, but in SOME nations the decisions from THE TOP allowed to change this situation, in some it was not a case. You need to learn more about the history of Germany, THEIR background, to understand that theirs traditionally was a very conservative state. Nothing like the US at all, so don't project your own history on Germans pls)))
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