Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > World Forums > Europe
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 04-29-2016, 04:06 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
15,507 posts, read 6,438,068 times
Reputation: 4831

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by erasure View Post
That's a new concept to me))))
think on it then. Had the concept of titling one as a criminal for stealing or a murderer for a killing a single person not come to play, the chances of cooperation and peace would be far more likely. The fact that people who pretend to have a higher moral standing than others feel it is their right to title someone for the rest of there life steals that persons chance from ever living without guilt, making the chance he/she would repeat such crime much higher. The only criminals or terrorists you see in this world are the ones you make, there is no one that deserves your anger of revenge because the assumes the person is so much different from you and what you want to do. They aren't, people in generally are very similar, they just look for the same thing in different ways. That in the end is the key to convince someone to act otherwise if need be, not by calling them a criminal and imaging yourself to be a person of greater morals.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 04-29-2016, 04:10 AM
 
1,830 posts, read 1,654,457 times
Reputation: 855
The Germans seem to be out of step with the rest of the world. That's odd/funny because their economy is so export dependent.

Quote:
People are increasingly identifying themselves as “global citizens.” Everywhere apart from Germany, that is.

Identity 2016: 'Global citizenship' rising, poll suggests - BBC News
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-29-2016, 04:22 AM
 
Location: Hamburg, Deutschland
1,248 posts, read 824,578 times
Reputation: 1915
Quote:
Originally Posted by CBMD View Post
The Germans seem to be out of step with the rest of the world. That's odd/funny because their economy is so export dependent.
This whole global citizenship thing is utter BS. There are so many various cultures around the world that it is impossible to relate oneself to all of them. You cannot identify with Germany and Somaly, or with Sweden and Cuba at the same time.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-29-2016, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Somewhere in Southern Italy
2,974 posts, read 2,816,932 times
Reputation: 1495
Quote:
Originally Posted by NOLA101 View Post
First, you're wrong. The French shop-owner and his wife are from France, and in fact shut down the bakery in the winter for their home in Provence. The Austrian baker is from Graz and she married an American. The larger supermarkets are family-owned businesses from people originating in Italy and Poland, respectively.

Second, the idea that you need to be "born in a country to cook the food" is laughably outdated. 40% of Italian pizzerias are owned by Egyptians. Many of the top chefs in Paris are Japanese. Many German restaurants are owned by Poles and Eastern Europeans.

The average pizzeria in Brooklyn is better than the average pizzeria in Rome (but no one tops Naples). Conversely, I have had better Turkish food in Germany than in Istanbul. The top Michelin-rated restaurant in NYC is headed by a Swiss-born youngster who was never professionally trained.I have had bad bistecca alla fiorentina in Florence, and bad tacos in Mexico City (but most of the restaurants in these cities are amazing). It has nothing to do with citizenship or bloodline or location or resume. Good food is good food.
First of all, for a place to be authentic it must follow the trend in its home country to reflect what's going on there. However, in most ethnic shops that can't happen because they have adapt to the standards and tastes of the host country; they develop differently than how a similar shop in the home country would and within decades they start being their own thing set apart from both the originary country and the host one.

Take Italian American cuisine as an example (i would go as far as calling it the 21st regional cuisine of Italy). That said, it doesn't mean that these developments can't end resulting in better products than those of their originary country but it can't be denied that they are different

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultrarunner View Post
About a dozen of the small family owned and operated bakeries in my area are no more... they ranged from very small to those with large followings... and all with European roots.

Guess it is a sign of the times...

Contrast to one that I patronize in Salzburg has been there over 200 years... and similar for the one I visit in Munich... Salzburg's oldest Bakery dates from the 12th century!

http://www.salzburg.info/en/shopping...kerei_st_peter

Hard to find anything half that old in SF Bay Area in business and California became a State in 1850... so 166 years and counting....

Their were huge concentrations of German speaking families with Taverns and Vereins and even a very large Altenheim that marked huge declines after both World Wars...

Even the Altenheim closed...

https://localwiki.org/oakland/The_Altenheim
Even here in small city Italy there are bakeries, butchers, greengrocers and such who have been in the same place for decades. Maybe it's changed owners but the place it is the same where seventy or eighty years ago if not more the same goods were commerciated. The phenomenon is even more noticeable in cities with larger traditions and historical center.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-29-2016, 10:03 AM
 
1,364 posts, read 1,116,673 times
Reputation: 1053
Quote:
Originally Posted by CBMD View Post
The Germans seem to be out of step with the rest of the world. That's odd/funny because their economy is so export dependent.

The term "global citizen" or the German translation "Weltbürger" is pretty unheard-of in Germany. I guess most Germans never think about this term or this concept. But that doesn't mean that they have a different attitude about this, or that they are isolationistic.
Or maybe many Germans think that the world outside of Germany is in most parts crazy During the Financial and Euro crisis and all the horrible news from other countries, many Germans maybe think that Germany is one of the few places where the situation has improved in the last 10 years. Sometimes it seems that we live in a land of bliss (Insel der Glückseligkeit). Some of the worst problems we had seem to be nearly solved now. Especially the high unemployment and the budget deficits.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-29-2016, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Taipei
8,867 posts, read 8,452,657 times
Reputation: 7414
Quote:
Originally Posted by CBMD View Post
The Germans seem to be out of step with the rest of the world. That's odd/funny because their economy is so export dependent.
The global citizen thing is more out of step with the rest of the world. That whole poll is pretty retarded.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-29-2016, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Hamburg, Deutschland
1,248 posts, read 824,578 times
Reputation: 1915
Quote:
Originally Posted by lukas1973 View Post
The term "global citizen" or the German translation "Weltbürger" is pretty unheard-of in Germany. I guess most Germans never think about this term or this concept. But that doesn't mean that they have a different attitude about this, or that they are isolationistic.
Or maybe many Germans think that the world outside of Germany is in most parts crazy During the Financial and Euro crisis and all the horrible news from other countries, many Germans maybe think that Germany is one of the few places where the situation has improved in the last 10 years. Sometimes it seems that we live in a land of bliss (Insel der Glückseligkeit). Some of the worst problems we had seem to be nearly solved now. Especially the high unemployment and the budget deficits.
That is very good to hear. You see, that is why I believe in Germans. They have had everything happen to them during their entire history that can only happen, and they always rose again and made their country even better than before. You people are a truly great nation. Weiter so!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-29-2016, 11:23 AM
 
1,364 posts, read 1,116,673 times
Reputation: 1053
Watching YT videos from Americans about their daily live in Germany, they really seem to adore German bakeries. They seem to like the variety and how the products taste. And it's definitely one thing they will miss back home in the U.S. It seems way more difficult to get similar baked goods in the U.S.

German expats living in the U.S. complain mostly about the following foodstuff in the U.S. that doesn't taste that good:

- cheese
- yogurt
- bread
- chocolate
- jam

That doesn't mean that you can't find good cheese, yogurt, bread, chocolate or jam in the U.S., but it seems way more difficult to find it. or it's way more expensive. A good source for good bread in the U.S. seems to be Polnish bakeries. That seemed to be an insiders' tip among German expats living in the U.S.
In the other direction, people seem to miss good Mexican food in Germany (Germany seems to have the worst Mexican food in the world ). And good quality beef in Germany seems uncommon or extremely expensive.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAxlTgobVHE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va7WQxcqhmY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKo06Nn0ztY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOvP5YMfC4A


Candies? Judging from what Americans say about German candies and what Germans say about American candies, German candies seems to be better
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-29-2016, 11:36 AM
 
291 posts, read 277,572 times
Reputation: 364
Quote:
Originally Posted by lukas1973 View Post
Watching YT videos from Americans about their daily live in Germany, they really seem to adore German bakeries. They seem to like the variety and how the products taste. And it's definitely one thing they will miss back home in the U.S. It seems way more difficult to get similar baked goods in the U.S.

German expats living in the U.S. complain mostly about the following foodstuff in the U.S. that doesn't taste that good:

- cheese
- yogurt
- bread
- chocolate
- jam
Those are the products I find the best in Germany. In addition to quality, they are very inexpensive, almost shockingly so.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-29-2016, 04:29 PM
 
Location: SoCal again
20,764 posts, read 19,984,458 times
Reputation: 43165
Quote:
Originally Posted by King Harold View Post
Those are the products I find the best in Germany. In addition to quality, they are very inexpensive, almost shockingly so.
Thats the only thing I miss from Germany. THE FOOD. Can call my family. Friends. Chat over Whatsapp.


But miss the foooooooooooooooood. Roll out of Aldi with a full cart of items for 30 euros.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > World Forums > Europe

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:05 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top