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Old 04-03-2016, 03:06 PM
 
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Russians are aggressive.

Europeans are taking an issue with that.

But of course they can't protect themselves with this phony generation.

They can't even protect their women.
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Old 04-03-2016, 03:13 PM
 
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Russians are aggressive.
That's why I asked here, what happened when they were NOT AGGRESSIVE?
As in the nineties? What was the result of it?

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Europeans are taking an issue with that.

But of course they can't protect themselves with this phony generation.

They can't even protect their women.
Who "can't protect themselves?" What Europeans exactly?
And are they the same ones, that "can't protect their women?"
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Old 04-03-2016, 03:30 PM
 
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That's why I asked here, what happened when they were NOT AGGRESSIVE?
As in the nineties? What was the result of it?



Who "can't protect themselves?" What Europeans exactly?
And are they the same ones, that "can't protect their women?"
Key point is Poland.

Rest is irrelevant.
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Old 04-03-2016, 03:34 PM
 
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Key point is Poland.

Rest is irrelevant.
What's with Poland? What "key point?"
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Old 04-03-2016, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in Southern Italy
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What's with Poland? What "key point?"
Why are you even bothering with him? He wants all countries to be pro USA and far right wing and the only one of those is.............Poland but that's mostly for necessity, the Polish government must be pro-EU and pro-USA as most people there view Russia as a threat and rightly so given what happened throughout history and even recently in Ukraine and the only way to act against it is to have the closest ties possible against both the EU and the USA.

Most far right parties in Europe see Russia in a favourable light and (looking from their point of view) why wouldn't they? Putin and his government are pretty much the embodiement of their values but those same people who support such parties are going to be against the USA since Putin and US governments have been and still are direct rivals militarly, politically and economically.
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Old 04-03-2016, 03:57 PM
 
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So Germans are Putin fans??

Oh boy you guys are delusional
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Old 04-03-2016, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in Southern Italy
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So Germans are Putin fans??

Oh boy you guys are delusional
No, on the whole they aren't. On one side, electors of the far right AfD (yeah, the party you rooted for at the German State elections) are mostly against the USA while the party pushes for closer economical ties to Russia. On the other side, several electors of the center-left and leftist SPD, Grune and Die Linke are skeptical of the political and militar role the USA's governments has had in the last decades but aren't favourable to how Russia is acting either.

This one is of course a massive generalization (politics for dummies) but from what i read and from the existence of a similar political landscape in Italy (although the USA is rarely judged negatively from the left, especially ever since Obama got elected) is somewhat accurate
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Old 04-03-2016, 04:16 PM
 
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No, on the whole they aren't. On one side, electors of the far right AfD (yeah, the party you rooted for at the German State elections) are mostly against the USA while the party pushes for closer economical ties to Russia. On the other side, several electors of the center-left and leftist SPD, Grune and Die Linke are skeptical of the political and militar role the USA's governments has had in the last decades but aren't favourable to how Russia is acting either.

This one is of course a massive generalization (politics for dummies) but from what i read and from the existence of a similar political landscape in Italy (although the USA is rarely judged negatively from the left, especially ever since Obama got elected) is somewhat accurate
I see Italians like US a lot.

Hopefully this is true cause we love Italy too!!!

So good relations!!!

I like Renzi as well.

We'll see how this political mess in Germany will turn out.

AfD is not a mature party, they need to make up their minds and polish their image.

In the end they'll cave in don't worry
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Old 04-03-2016, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in Southern Italy
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I see Italians like US a lot.

Hopefully this is true cause we love Italy too!!!

So good relations!!!

I like Renzi as well.

We'll see how this political mess in Germany will turn out.

AfD is not a mature party, they need to make up their minds and polish their image.

In the end they'll cave in don't worry
The pendulum can always shift, Italians are far from being against the current USA government but things could change, Bush government was something we really had a liking for and it showed in such ratings or polls. So if a Republican such as Cruz or Trump is at the White House i think these ratings will start taking a hit especially if they continue on the same path as the past Republican presidents

Germany isn't in a political mess, it's one of the most stable countries in Europe, the fact they aren't fond of the way the US government (you usually so much seem against) is handling foreign politics doesn't mean that they are now suddenly unstable. As for AfD, Petry which you seemed to love so much is the one who's pushed for closer ties to Russia..............................so make up your mind
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Old 04-03-2016, 07:25 PM
 
Location: KCMO
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We stood by them during the Cold War.


They started two wars with us. Some of them even fought against our independence. But I'm not mad at them at all.
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