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That's because left-leaning Americans would be considered far right extremists by European standards.
Let's not exaggerate now! They are centrists, basically liberals. Bernie Sanders may fit well in Socialdemocratic parties though
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Originally Posted by BigCityDreamer
The only thing that ANYBODY cares about when it comes to politics is whatever has an effect on them personally. By the way, most Americans don't even talk much about American politics. Just to let you know.
(Some might talk about Donald Trump, but that's because he's turned politics into a reality show. Not much else. Donald Trump belongs in Hollywood, not the White House in my opinion.)
I get it, i don't think any population talks much about politics. In Italy, only when there's a local (mayoral, no one cares much for regions and provinces) and government election or some referendums (such as the nuclear one a while ago) politics are brought.
Some are remotely interested in American elections because they know American government could (indirectly) affect us through foreign policies and maybe economic ones. However, European countries on their own, don't have such importance, so i think our politics aside from this immigration issue these conservatives are so obsessed with for some reason (they want to save Europe's heritage ) don't get coverage and maybe rightly so.
This is a bit of a rant but American conservatives think we're tied by a special bond, maybe they still perceive themselves as European because some far ancestor was born in Italy, Poland, Germany or what nowadays is the UK, maybe because he breaks down the world by races (something that doesn't exist) instead of cultures.
The matter is, there aren't any Europeans complaining about how Mexicans, Salvadoreans and such are flooding the USA. The only thing (some, a minority who's interested in politics) Europeans care about when it comes to USA politics is the presidential race but that's because it can have an effect on their own countries due to the USA being the World's Superpower (even though China and Russia are making a name for themselves respectively in economic and military camps)
And you can't see how immigration policy affects who will be President of the United States?
You really have this much trouble connecting the dots?
Let me break it down for you. Let's use Texas as an example:
Texas -the state of Texas, not the country of Texas - is one of the largest economies in the world and one of the most productive economies. It's GDP is about as large as Russia's, and as Canada's, and larger than many, many western countries, including but not limited to Australia.
Texas also has many electoral votes and a lot of power and influence within the US governmental system.
White, non Hispanics are now the minority in Texas.
Hispanics tend to vote in a group and they are the largest group in Texas. Their votes, businesses, production, etc. make a huge difference not only in Texas, but in the US, and thus globally.
This influence is due mostly to immigration, both legal and illegal immigration.
Now -I'm not complaining about the immigration of Hispanics to Texas and the US. For the most part, these folks are a positive, and they move here intending to assimilate and become productive, financially secure, tax paying Americans. I'm all for that sort of immigration.
Not so sure that's the sort that's happening in Europe. I hope I'm wrong.
Really? I guess you don't know what social media is. Good grief.
The problem is that Americans don't really get in-depth news of other countries the way other countries get news of the U.S., unless they deliberately seek it out on the internet or cable--and I don't mean Drudge Report or CNN. I mean media put out by other countries themselves, or programs like VICE that do deep-dives.
You mean like the BBC or Al Jazeera for instance? It may surprise you but many, many Americans get their news from both those very common sources.
Hell, I don't even have to check out CNN or Fox or MSNBC for US national news - all I have to do is read the BBC news - it covers US news extensively.
And you can't see how immigration policy affects who will be President of the United States?
You really have this much trouble connecting the dots?
Let me break it down for you. Let's use Texas as an example:
Texas -the state of Texas, not the country of Texas - is one of the largest economies in the world and one of the most productive economies. It's GDP is about as large as Russia's, and as Canada's, and larger than many, many western countries, including but not limited to Australia.
Texas also has many electoral votes and a lot of power and influence within the US governmental system.
White, non Hispanics are now the minority in Texas.
Hispanics tend to vote in a group and they are the largest group in Texas. Their votes, businesses, production, etc. make a huge difference not only in Texas, but in the US, and thus globally.
This influence is due mostly to immigration, both legal and illegal immigration.
Now -I'm not complaining about the immigration of Hispanics to Texas and the US. For the most part, these folks are a positive, and they move here intending to assimilate and become productive, financially secure, tax paying Americans. I'm all for that sort of immigration.
Not so sure that's the sort that's happening in Europe. I hope I'm wrong.
Europe's immigration policy doesn't affect who will be the President of your country. No, it really doesn't. I think you misunderstood what i meant. Anyway, i don't see how whites being the minority in Texas should concern anyone, what should concern Americans is if people who culturally identify themselves as Americans are the minority.
Ethnicity doesn't matter, culture does. Anyway, i don't see immigration to Europe as being any different on the whole really.
Really? I guess you don't know what social media is. Good grief.
90% of "political" discussions on social media are fluff. The same is true of discussion forums like here on city data. Some people like to gossip and rant on and on and on about things which they are clueless about and which often don't even exist. Politics is basically the new Hollywood gossip.
As a European who now lives in the US I find the premise of the OP comical also. Americans barely even acknowledge Europe apart from a place to get good food (certain countries at least) or a destination for a vacation. That's about it. Europe doesn't even register for most. On the other hand, European media has always been replete with stories about America this, America that.
As a European who now lives in the US I find the premise of the OP comical also. Americans barely even acknowledge Europe apart from a place to get good food (certain countries at least) or a destination for a vacation. That's about it. Europe doesn't even register for most. On the other hand, European media has always been replete with stories about America this, America that.
I think he is referring to American conservative posters on City-Data Forum.
I'm not sure whether the OP is sick of hearing US conservatives on city data.com or from the media in general.
I cringe when I see all the right wingers come to this forum and preach guns and intolerance, most of those posters are wet-behind-the-ears, seemingly just discovering politics from the Trump train.
But from news sources, it usually goes like this: Bernie Sanders (sometimes Obama, Hillary or other democrat) sites Europe as having qualities or governance that the US would do well to emulate. Then some conservative politician or talking head gets up and slams Europe for being an awful socialist place.
The very worst thing in the world to US conservatives is federal taxes. To suggest that Sweden offers a wonderful quality of life, is to flirt with tax increases. And don't get them started on immigration and diversity.
Europeans cringe at US conservatives as a given, and they have every right to.
Then, and I say this as a European, don't comment about the US issues on racism, guns, inequality and everything related to the US, only exception is foreign policy since it affects us as well.
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) don't get coverage and maybe rightly so.
