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Old 04-07-2016, 10:35 PM
 
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It is only understandable when Eastern Europeans view USA as a threat when Russian nazis march and chant: Crimea is not enough, all hohols (insulting name for Ukrainians) must bcome a part of Russia, Donetsk - Russian city, Kiev -Russian city, Minsk, Tallin, Riga, Warsaw, ... - Russian city. Our planes (Migs) will land in Riga, our tanks will enter Prague.

http://youtu.be/LIuHocU6h7k

As broad and wide Russian anti "extremist" laws are, this is not just Russian nazis' opinion.

Serbia is a mini imperialist balkan nation fond of Russia whose pride and ambition suffered quite a bit in the past 25 years. Serbs project their longings upon Russia "restoring" its rightful place in the world by aggressive means. Serbs wish they could do the same but it's rather a small nation without A bomb, so they just cheer for Russia. Hungary has some beef with Ukraine, tracing its origin to the days of much larger Hungary, so it goes by the enemy of my enemy is my friend, or at least somebody to cheer for. They believe that NATO would protect them, but in a case Russia would tear apart Ukraine, they might make a deal to gain some real estate. Those are unspoken factors, but the line is well defined failed EE imperial nations root (silently) for Putin, and not because they are afraid of USA.

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Old 04-11-2016, 03:38 AM
 
Location: Russia
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How many countries in Europe did the US invade in the 20th/21 century
Since '91 US (NATO):

1991 Persian Gulf
1992-1998 Iraq
1992 Somalia
1994 Haiti
1999 Yugoslavia
2001 Afghanistan
2002 Venezuela
2003 Iraq
2004 Haiti
2004-2010 Somalia
2011 Libya
2014 Syria, Iraq
2015 Yemen
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Old 04-11-2016, 03:41 AM
 
Location: Russia
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It is only understandable when Eastern Europeans view USA as a threat when Russian nazis march and chant: Crimea is not enough, all hohols (insulting name for Ukrainians) must bcome a part of Russia, Donetsk - Russian city, Kiev -Russian city, Minsk, Tallin, Riga, Warsaw, ... - Russian city. Our planes (Migs) will land in Riga, our tanks will enter Prague.
Tallin, Riga, Warsaw is not Russian city. ))

PS: Kiev is the mother of Russian cities. ))))
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Old 04-11-2016, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Somewhere in Southern Italy
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Since '91 US (NATO):

1991 Persian Gulf
1992-1998 Iraq
1992 Somalia
1994 Haiti
1999 Yugoslavia
2001 Afghanistan
2002 Venezuela
2003 Iraq
2004 Haiti
2004-2010 Somalia
2011 Libya
2014 Syria, Iraq
2015 Yemen
As far as i know the USA hasn't invaded Yemen nor Syria and Iraq (2014, i mean). In fact, these countries are in the midst of a civil war where foreign countries have intervened indirectly (exception being Saudi Arabia in Yemen who effectively seems to have sent troops despite them denying it).

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Yeah so many countries having beef with Greece and Greece thinking their biggest problem is Germany 0_0?
Propaganda, Germany was one of the most vocal countries at first over Greek debt and now Greek medias and particularly the State owned ones are probably targetting Germany
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Old 04-11-2016, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Russia
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As far as i know the USA hasn't invaded Yemen nor Syria and Iraq (2014, i mean). In fact, these countries are in the midst of a civil war where foreign countries have intervened indirectly (exception being Saudi Arabia in Yemen who effectively seems to have sent troops despite them denying it).
They fired rocket (missiles) attacks.

+ But yes, I'm sorry, my table is not suitable for expression: "in Europe did the US invade".
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Old 04-11-2016, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Somewhere in Southern Italy
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They fired rocket (missiles) attacks.

+ But yes, I'm sorry, my table is not suitable for expression: "in Europe did the US invade".
You can't talk about invasion until there aren't troops involved. Going by your logic, the whole of NATO, Saudi Arabia, Russia and Iran are all invading Syria
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Old 04-29-2016, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Russia Kaliningrad
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You can't talk about invasion until there aren't troops involved. Going by your logic, the whole of NATO, Saudi Arabia, Russia and Iran are all invading Syria
The main difference that Russian forces were invited by legitimate government.

If some country will drop some bombs at the territory of my country. I would call it invasion.
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Old 04-29-2016, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Russia Kaliningrad
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and the U.S. is the one protecting Eastern Europe).
And when did they protect EE for the last time?
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Old 04-29-2016, 11:03 AM
 
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What I was trying to say actually was that for the fist time people in EE are divided between their support for US/Russia.

It's more like: 15% are anti-US, 15% anti-Russia and 70% anti-ISIS etc.

It's no more "90% in EE want to join US, because America has Mcdonalds and Donald Trump" etc.
No one I've ever talked to from Eastern Europe considers the US a threat. Most express varying degrees of concern about Russia though.

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Old 05-01-2016, 01:07 AM
 
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invade these countries again by buying real estates, emigrating to these countries
I doubt that these high-middle-class Russians who do this possess any danger to the country. They bring profit for its economy.

A year ago I read somewhere about Russian businessman who invested in the reconstruction of a spa in Latvia. What's wrong with it?.

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