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This is the definition of Paranoia from wikipedia:
"Paranoia is a thought process believed to be heavily influenced by anxiety or fear, often to the point of delusion and irrationality.[1] Paranoid thinking typically includes persecutory, or beliefs of conspiracy concerning a perceived threat towards oneself (e.g. "Everyone is out to get me"). "
Oh yeah, thanks for reminding me it's 1986 again, as the world is divided between USRR commies and Muricans.
I'm glad you understand the definition; what you don't seem to understand is that you are the one acting paranoid.
Eastern Europe is being very reasonable trying to secure its borders from Russian invasion. They don't want to become another Ukraine. They have the unfortunate position of sitting next to an aggressive military power with expansionist aims, a radical dictator, and an angry populace.
No, you don't understand simple logic, that's your problem.
My country left Warsaw pact 1989.
We joined NATO 2004.
So where were the Russian tanks 15 years?
I've asked this question 1-2 times before but nobody can't answer it as your're just desperate to find an excuse to put soldiers to invade other countries and leech/launder government money for their useless stay. Simple as that.
I don't know if the purpose was to dillute nationalities, I don't think they cared much about that in the Stalin era. But they did remove most people who were perceived as a potential threat -- mainly richer farmers and businessmen, also intelligentsia.
Yes, the resettlement and mixture of nationalities was very much part of Soviet policies during Stalin's times, which is quite understandable policy in such big country, where the government wanted to keep tub on nationalist movements and make all inhabitants of the country feel "Soviet."
As for the "richer farmers and businessmen" in Baltic countries - no, there was more serious threat than Baltic"intelligentsia." In fact the guerilla war continued there well into the fifties, long after the WWII was over.
I'm sorry but I can barely contain my laughter. You really think the US protects Eastern Europe? They only protect Islamic separatists like the UCK in Kosovo and Muhadjeen in Bosnia.
It all depends WHAT PARTS of Eastern Europe I think. For the most part the US uses EE for their own geopolitical goals. But that doesn't mean there are no "favorites" there. Like Poland for example.
I suspect it has got anything and everything to do with what record of relations each and every EE country had with Russia back in history.
No, you don't understand simple logic, that's your problem.
My country left Warsaw pact 1989.
We joined NATO 2004.
So where were the Russian tanks 15 years?
I've asked this question 1-2 times before but nobody can't answer it as your're just desperate to find an excuse to put soldiers to invade other countries and leech/launder government money for their useless stay. Simple as that.
Yes, the resettlement and mixture of nationalities was very much part of Soviet policies during Stalin's times, which is quite understandable policy in such big country, where the government wanted to keep tub on nationalist movements and make all inhabitants of the country feel "Soviet."
As for the "richer farmers and businessmen" in Baltic countries - no, there was more serious threat than Baltic"intelligentsia." In fact the guerilla war continued there well into the fifties, long after the WWII was over.
That's why Russians kept on sending Balts to Siberia - to eliminate the threat of the nationalists.
Well the purpose of removing richer farmers, businessmen, intelligentsia, etc was to remove the head of the snake, so to speak. Also various politicians of any level, police and military officers, bureaucrats, etc. And by intelligentsia I meant for example priests, professors, writers, journalists, etc.
Basically, they removed people with influence and voice and sent them to Siberia (unless they were pro-communist). Those people and their families were perceived as the biggest threat. Remove local leaders and their families, and replace them with local leaders educated in communist spirit.
Other than that, they also emptied prisons and brothels and sent everyone to Siberia.
And of course if someone from your family was actively in resistance, you could become a target too. Or people who tried to run away as refugees somewhere, they also would end up in Siberia.
I'm not sure that Stalin's goal was to 'mix nationalities'. It could be, but I think that idea probably appeared as revision of history by patriotic movements, in the late 1980s and early 1990s.
The Siberia policy didn't seem to be about mixing nationalities, they were trying to eradicate a certain social class and remove people of influence. They removed what they perceived as political threats, and even local Russians who lived in Baltic states prior to WW2 could become a target, many of them ended up in Siberia.
How Eastern Europeans see Russia is palpable , once there is a chance to become member of the EU or NATO everybody runs from Russia as quickly as possible.
Well the purpose of removing richer farmers, businessmen, intelligentsia, etc was to remove the head of the snake, so to speak. Also various politicians of any level, police and military officers, bureaucrats, etc. And by intelligentsia I meant for example priests, professors, writers, journalists, etc.
Basically, they removed people with influence and voice and sent them to Siberia (unless they were pro-communist). Those people and their families were perceived as the biggest threat. Remove local leaders and their families, and replace them with local leaders educated in communist spirit.
Other than that, they also emptied prisons and brothels and sent everyone to Siberia.
And of course if someone from your family was actively in resistance, you could become a target too. Or people who tried to run away as refugees somewhere, they also would end up in Siberia.
I'm not sure that Stalin's goal was to 'mix nationalities'. It could be, but I think that idea probably appeared as revision of history by patriotic movements, in the late 1980s and early 1990s.
The Siberia policy didn't seem to be about mixing nationalities, they were trying to eradicate a certain social class and remove people of influence. They removed what they perceived as political threats, and even local Russians who lived in Baltic states prior to WW2 could become a target, many of them ended up in Siberia.
That was probably the "original idea" in theory. But on practice, a whole great deal of innocent people have been shipped to Siberia/killed. As I've already said, same thing happened to many Russians in "Russia proper" during Stalin's times.
I think there was a movie back in the 70ies made in Riga ( Latvia) where this subject hasn't been probably discussed, but at least you could have a glimpse into it.
That was probably the "original idea" in theory. But on practice, a whole great deal of innocent people have been shipped to Siberia/killed. As I've already said, same thing happened to many Russians in "Russia proper" during Stalin's times.
I think there was a movie back in the 70ies made in Riga ( Latvia) where this subject hasn't been probably discussed, but at least you could have a glimpse into it.
My Wife's grandparents were among those sent to Siberia (they were both from fairly wealthy farming families). In both cases jealous neighbors denounced them to the new authorities. The privations that they experienced, and the ingenuity that it took to survive, made for some fascinating stories. I supposed that this is one reason that I tend to take pronouncements of certain Russian nationalists personally.
That was probably the "original idea" in theory. But on practice, a whole great deal of innocent people have been shipped to Siberia/killed. As I've already said, same thing happened to many Russians in "Russia proper" during Stalin's times.
Two of my great uncles were sent to Siberia under Stalin until 1952. Their crime? Being ethnic Germans in the Soviet Union.
Eventually Germany negotiated their release (alongside German Prisoners of War from WW2) and they were released in 1952 (but they had to walk the whole way to be resettled in Germany). Most of their friends in the camps had died, so they were lucky to return, though one had lost an arm from the cold.
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