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Eastern Europe is being very reasonable trying to secure its borders from Russian invasion. They don't want to become another Ukraine. They have the unfortunate position of sitting next to an aggressive military power with expansionist aims, a radical dictator, and an angry populace.
You should not compare the post-Soviet country and other countries of Eastern Europe. It is not correct. And is it reasonable, when NATO sends German troops to the Russian border? What the Russians must to think about it?
You should not compare the post-Soviet country and other countries of Eastern Europe. It is not correct. And is it reasonable, when NATO sends German troops to the Russian border? What the Russians must to think about it?
Given the state of the German military, what Russians should do about it is to try and not die laughing. BUt I take your point, historically.
That was probably the "original idea" in theory. But on practice, a whole great deal of innocent people have been shipped to Siberia/killed. As I've already said, same thing happened to many Russians in "Russia proper" during Stalin's times.
I think there was a movie back in the 70ies made in Riga ( Latvia) where this subject hasn't been probably discussed, but at least you could have a glimpse into it.
Of course most people were innocent, but I'm sure you understand that it was never a debate.
A rich farmer and his kids weren't guilty of a crime, they were just rich. A priest or a boss of a local firefighters brigade and his family were also innocent, they just had certain status.
It was not about innocence or guilt, nor IMO it was about diluting nationalities, they simply targeted specific groups that they deemed untrustworthy.
Russians will not compensate a **** - because all you said is a lie, a distorted picture of history put into your brain by corrupted politicized historians.
People who were sent to Siberia from Baltic states were criminals, killing and robbing peaceful citizens.
Before joining USSR Baltic countries were mostly agrarian, USSR invested heavily in them, building factories, electric power stations, generating white collar jobs - this required some migration from Russia and other republics because locals would never be able to pull that level of industrialization themselves.
Stop spreading lies.
What did the Tatars do to deserve their expulsion from the Crimea?
You should not compare the post-Soviet country and other countries of Eastern Europe. It is not correct. And is it reasonable, when NATO sends German troops to the Russian border? What the Russians must to think about it?
I don't kow. What should America think about this:
I'm glad you understand the definition; what you don't seem to understand is that you are the one acting paranoid.
Eastern Europe is being very reasonable trying to secure its borders from Russian invasion. They don't want to become another Ukraine. They have the unfortunate position of sitting next to an aggressive military power with expansionist aims, a radical dictator, and an angry populace.
Russia is not expansionist, if they were, Ukraine and Belarus would be under Russia now, and so would South Ossetia and Abkhazia.
Crimea voted to leave Ukraine, then voted to join Russia. Over 90% of the military stationed in Crimea defected to Russia. East Ukraine rebelled against Kiev after the president most of E. Ukraine voted for was ousted in a coup. Russia is providing material support for E. Ukraine, the same way the US is providing material support for Syrian rebels.
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Originally Posted by erasure
Yes, the resettlement and mixture of nationalities was very much part of Soviet policies during Stalin's times, which is quite understandable policy in such big country, where the government wanted to keep tub on nationalist movements and make all inhabitants of the country feel "Soviet."
As for the "richer farmers and businessmen" in Baltic countries - no, there was more serious threat than Baltic"intelligentsia." In fact the guerilla war continued there well into the fifties, long after the WWII was over.
That's why Russians kept on sending Balts to Siberia - to eliminate the threat of the nationalists.
Sort of the same strategy the US did with Native Americans, dispersed them and drove them to low resource areas, and destroyed their resource supplies like Bison, so they cannot rebel against the authority of the US gov. This is generally how countries everywhere were built throughout human history.
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Two of my great uncles were sent to Siberia under Stalin until 1952. Their crime? Being ethnic Germans in the Soviet Union.
Eventually Germany negotiated their release (alongside German Prisoners of War from WW2) and they were released in 1952 (but they had to walk the whole way to be resettled in Germany). Most of their friends in the camps had died, so they were lucky to return, though one had lost an arm from the cold.
Likewise Germany arrested and executed many people also; their crime? Being disabled, wrong religion, etc. Perhaps your uncles survived due to being in the USSR, may have been killed by the German government if they were in Germany.
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What did the Tatars do to deserve their expulsion from the Crimea?
Sided with the Nazis when Germany invaded the USSR. Also, every group was a victim of the Soviet regime, not sure why you would think the Tatars would have some special exemption to this. You can ask this same question of any group; "What did _______ do to deserve their expulsion from ______?"
Sided with the Nazis when Germany invaded the USSR. Also, every group was a victim of the Soviet regime, not sure why you would think the Tatars would have some special exemption to this. You can ask this same question of any group; "What did _______ do to deserve their expulsion from ______?"
I don't think that any group had an exemption, I was using them as an example.
America has summed warship with reconnaissance equipment to the naval base of Russia. Russia defends its interests. Russian jets have not violated the law.
America has summed warship with reconnaissance equipment to the naval base of Russia. Russia defends its interests. Russian jets have not violated the law.
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