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Just take a job like working in Microsoft, google , facebook in the USA and then compare it to working for the same companies in the EU. The EU version of the same job works less hours, has vastly better employee protection, vacation and rights , and still earn a good wage....
I know because we have done it, and were involved in setting up packages for a large number of peoples over a number of years and countries and companies....
Did you just miss what we said? Comparing US to Europe's lifestyle is like comparing the lifestyles of parents with the 30-year loser who lives in their house for free, and still buried in Credit Card debt, while parents go to work to pay for this.
Of course the moocher-loser can have a great lifestyle that way.
Let's go over again -- Hitler, a social-democrat, a left-winger demolished Europe. American Taxpayer via Marshall Plan rebuilt the house Europeans live in. And not only that, but American Taxpayer disciplined this violent and destructive child into reforming the market system, expanding, yes expanding Labor Unions, dropping regulations of barriers and commerce, etc. Oh how quickly we forget!!
Yet, this 30-year loser moralizes with his parents -- 14 week maternity leave, 6 weeks vacations, 80% unemployment, etc. etc. -- the very parents who built the house the ungrateful moron lives in, and flaunts his goodies from.
And I have not gotten yet to what the parents keep providing, to this day. Yet, this moron **** never said thank-you. Instead, he keeps disrespecting his caring and responsible parents, because they don't take 6 weeks vacation so they can provide a roof over the loser's head, and security.
But that shoe is about to drop, isn't it, and those with half-brain are terrified...
absolute revisionist BS and you know it. Most of that money came in the form of loans that the countries spent decades repaying. Even up to the 70s there were plenty still trying to pay off those monies.
Ref markets, again you are wrong. The USA has vastly more controlled, limited closed markets than the EU. You really need to wake up if you think the US has open competition compared to the EU.
We should stop paying to keep troops there, but it has been in OUR interest to keep them there and spread our influence... Sadly we can't afford it anymore due to the endless pointless wars we keep STARTING...
But don't feel bad, most of us have been fed the "freedom" tripe for so long we would not know it if it hit us in the head.
absolute revisionist BS and you know it. Most of that money came in the form of loans that the countries spent decades repaying. Even up to the 70s there were plenty still trying to pay off those monies.
Obviously, you are not familiar with Marshall's Plan and aid package. Yes, there were other long-term, low- interest loans, but Marshall funds were grants.
Secondly, why are you silent on other aspects of Marshall's Plan, or simply don't know?
Ref markets, again you are wrong. The USA has vastly more controlled, limited closed markets than the EU. You really need to wake up if you think the US has open competition compared to the EU.
Oh, I am all awaken. Who said that "US has open competition compared to the EU?" Because I didn't.
I've actually made the opposite case on the economic forum. But yes, we can definitely compare competitiveness, market openness, regulatory burden, between US and EU, and even between US, Switzerland, Sweden, Germany, France, the whole shebang.
But just curious, what does that do for the topic?
Most of the debt owed by Germany after WWII was written down to almost nothing in the 1950s, never mind the grants made through the Marshall Plan to other European nations. Today, there are 28 countries in NATO and the US picks up 25% of the tab. Europeans are able to afford cushy social programs because they do not pay their share of their own national defense. And they are still going broke and their economies still suck. Whistling to the graveyard.
Today, there are 28 countries in NATO and the US picks up 25% of the tab. Europeans are able to afford cushy social programs because they do not pay their share of their own national defense. And they are still going broke and their economies still suck. Whistling to the graveyard.
The securing and deterring nature of NATO lies in the Force Readiness of the Alliance members' military, and not on a standing army.
US provides about 2/3 of the Alliance's Force Readiness, for little to no national defense direct benefit to US.
Furthermore, being a member in NATO guarantees you national defense. Period. According to NATO's charter, an attack on one member, is an attack on every member, AND every member will go into the fight.
For example, if Libya attacked Portugal, Libya would have to dance with US military, British, France, 2 german battalions, etc. It's "dead-on-arrival" suicidal mission against an ironclad Alliance.
Ironically, European countries begged, cried a river until US accepted that crucial commitment. US originally didn't want because it knew leeches were lined up from here to Canarsie.
They still are.
And leeches say "hey America, why don't you have 6 weeks vacation?" Because somebody needs to work, you morons..
BTW, did anybody tell you that while Switzerland mandates adults to own guns, Swiss Law prohibits residents of certain descent from owning guns -- Serbia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo, Macedonia, Turkey, Sri Lanka, Algeria and Albania.
It's as if we in America said "2nd amendment does not apply to Americans of Arab descent"
If we did this in US, liberals would scream "discrimination." But you hear nothing about Switzerland's discrimination of certain minorities on the basis only of national origin.
Furthermore, being a member in NATO guarantees you national defense. Period. According to NATO's charter, an attack on one member, is an attack on every member, AND every member will go into the fight.
For example, if Libya attacked Portugal, Libya would have to dance with US military, British, France, 2 german battalions, etc. It's "dead-on-arrival" suicidal mission against an ironclad Alliance.
Ironically, European countries begged, cried a river until US accepted that crucial commitment. US originally didn't want because it knew leeches were lined up from here to Canarsie.
They still are.
And leeches say "hey America, why don't you have 6 weeks vacation?" Because somebody needs to work, you morons..
Nice theory. How does it explain Australia, NZ and Canada having advanced economies and good quality of life like Europe and no Marshall plan?
But I do understand why you have to stick so irrationally to this narrative. You have no choice, and it's hard to admit your life sucks. But, you could work for change.
Nice theory. How does it explain Australia, NZ and Canada having advanced economies and good quality of life like Europe and no Marshall plan?
US provided almost 50 billion by 1950 as aid (grants and loans) to Europe, Asia and (gasp!!) Canada. That's about $ 600-700 billion in today's money.
It's not a narrative. These are facts.
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But I do understand...
You don't understand ****...
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You have no choice, and it's hard to admit your life sucks. But, you could work for change.
What?! Like I said you know nothing, besides what does this have to do with the topic? Do you have anything useful to add to the topic or are you gonna continue personal attacks in violation of the Forum rules? Rules, which I wish I could suspend responding to you, rather than biting my tongue.
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