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Old 10-08-2017, 02:44 PM
 
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Is the United States more segregated racially and socioeconomically than in Europe? For example even the blackest areas in London aren't over 90% black like in American cities. Now I know that London is only 13 percent black (even though it felt more when I was there, personally) but NYC is only 25% black. Yet in NYC you have areas that are over 90% black and in London no area is over 40% black. Maybe redlining has something to with it where in the United States loans were not given to whites who wanted to live in or set up businesses in minority neighborhoods. You might not ever had redlining in the UK or other parts of Europe. Also I read that poor people in Amsterdam live in trendy areas because of housing subsidies. Would you say European neighborhoods are more integrated socially than in the United States?
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Old 10-09-2017, 05:04 AM
 
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American cities are similar to medieval cities - divided by guettos, guilds, burgs, holy grounds, etc.
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Old 10-09-2017, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Finland
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The question is too broad to answer. The difference is already very big between countries like Finland and Sweden. In Finland the answer is Yes, in Sweden in many cases it's No.

In countries like the NL, it varies a lot on a neighbourhood basis. Some are very heterogeneous, other practically 95% first generation immigrant.
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Old 10-09-2017, 08:06 AM
 
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American cities are similar to medieval cities - divided by guettos, guilds, burgs, holy grounds, etc.
what is worse, so are people's children because the quality of public education depends on parent's income.

Chicago is a prime example. In the wealthy north, a black guy walking on the street will stick out like a sore thumb although the city itself is like 40% black. In the poor south, may neighbourhoods are close to 100% black. It is so bad that if you take the red line subway, after a certain station, all the non-black passengers disappear all of a sudden.
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Old 10-09-2017, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
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I guess every city in Europe has some kind of cluster-like division based on socio-economical aspects, but not every city has the same level of segregation. For instance I live in a relatively lower-class neighborhood with a higher percentage of immigrants compared to some other wealthier parts of the city, but it's actually pretty quiet, nice and well-maintained overall. I have never seen beggars here or sketchy people at night. We're also quite far from the center so that may be a reason for that too.

Bologna isn't particularly divided compared to some other places I've seen.
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Old 10-09-2017, 04:01 PM
 
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Barcelona is highly segregated by income, but there are no no-go zones in the city--- but several areas that are very close, inhabited by many Spanish Gypsies that do look awful and frightening, but there are also "payos" (non gypsies).
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Old 10-10-2017, 01:48 AM
 
Location: Ankara, Turkey
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One day I stepped out of the subway in the wrong station in Manhattan. I was totally lost and apparently I was in Harlem. All the people in the street were black and lets just say they were not looking at me in a friendly way. I couldn’t find the subway entrance to take me back. Finally I found a taxi to go back.
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Old 10-10-2017, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Polderland
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We have some areas in the Netherlands that are nearly 100% rich and some that are the opposite, but overall there's a descent mix of low and higher incomes. A lot of suburbs build in resent years have mostly houses in the middle class price range and on the edge of that part some in higher price range, so high and mid level incomes live in the same area.

I have my doubts though why would anybody buy a million euro house such an area with mostly 250k houses. Not good for value, and very hard to sell.
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Old 10-11-2017, 04:27 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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Depends. If you include Indians, Bangladeshis and Pakistanis as one group then you will get areas of London where they make up the majority. If you consider them individually then no, that is generally not the case. Tower Hamlets for example is 32% Bangladeshi and 31% White British, so no ethnic group is dominating.
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Old 10-14-2017, 04:35 PM
 
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London is majority foreign born now.
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