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Old 09-28-2019, 05:41 PM
 
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Ohh... I did not realize that you were the Argentinian Psychologist present in every thread.
I could not help empathizing with the sweet Swedish foreign student!!!
I bet that for her it was a shock to realize that her country was invaded by evil blackamoors!!!
Socialist blackamoors with bad breath!!
Did you say dude implying that I'm not white? In that case, thanks.
I don't want to be considered white by Breitbart mutts from the New World.
Yawn. Mute.
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Old 09-28-2019, 06:13 PM
 
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Hmm, those don't look like credible documentaries to me, more like propaganda pieces for a lobby group trying to push a particular ideology. I wouldn't trust them to 'explain' anything in an unbiased way.

Just looking at the web page of the organisation producing the 'documentary' starts to ring alarm bells about how objective is output is going to be.

https://www.freetochoosenetwork.org/about/

Just because it was presented by a Swede doesn't mean anything, unless you would accept that anything about the US made by Michael Moore or Noam Chomsky must be the whole undisputed truth because they are both Americans.

The data shows that Sweden didn't tank in the 1970s, it was one of the most prosperous countries in the world in that decade, and still is today.

Socialism is a system of economic organisation whereby the means of production are owned by the workers in those particular industries. Sweden had never had such a system of worker ownership of industry, most economic activity in Sweden is and always has been privately owned.
I'm not quite sure what I'm supposed to see in that link that's supposed to make me think they're a group that's interested in spreading misinformation. They're a non profit with the goal to
"produce and distribute video-centric educational teaching units that encourage thoughtful consideration and critical thinking." Maybe you're seeing something on their website that gives you a negative impression?

The presenter of that documentary, Jonas Norberg, is a liberal and globalist, so I don't see that the information he presented was slanted.

No, I don't accept anything Michael Moore says as being legitimate.

You're right, Sweden doesn't really fit the bill as being socialist. Which is ironic, because ever since Bernie Sanders came to the national spotlight I've lost count of the number of times he's mentioned socialism and the Swedish model of socialism; also, our foreign exchange student spent much of her first few months talking us up about the virtues of socialism. Sounds like many people have or had the wrong idea about Sweden.

It's most likely more appropriate to call them a social democracy. However, I think we could also call Sweden "more socialist" than other European countries. They're very big on redistribution and equality, collectivism, and collaboration. Something America could learn from them: even the lowest wage earners pay their fair share of taxes.
This is all great, but this also leads back to the reason I started this thread. Sweden opened up their arms to immigrants from all over Africa and the middle east, and now their utopian society is starting to fray at the seams, as the BBC and SVT investigations show.
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Old 09-28-2019, 10:37 PM
 
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I wish that it was politically correct to say that I prefer to not interact with other cultures that are significantly different from my own except on vacation. It would be great if I could interact only with significantly similar cultures in my own country. Rarely, after dealing with professionals who are significantly culturally different, reflecting on how I am treated, how I am perceived, and how I feel about doing it again, I prefer culturally similar.

Why is it politically incorrect to say this?
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Old 09-29-2019, 12:21 AM
 
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I wish that it was politically correct to say that I prefer to not interact with other cultures that are significantly different from my own except on vacation. It would be great if I could interact only with significantly similar cultures in my own country. Rarely, after dealing with professionals who are significantly culturally different, reflecting on how I am treated, how I am perceived, and how I feel about doing it again, I prefer culturally similar.

Why is it politically incorrect to say this?
"The virtue covers for the sin." That's a phrase that I think could apply to those who tell society that it needs more diversity (Justin Trudeau comes to mind) When someone stands on their soap box loudly yelling about diversity at those who have gathered round, what they're actually saying is: "we need to do things the way I think they need to be done." Ultimately, when you challenge one of these virtue signalers, you find that their idea of diversity is greatly dependent on a number of factors, thus illustrating that they are in fact less diverse than others who don't demand diversity.

I too see the value in remaining a more homogeneous culture. It's not racist. I feel that when a culture freely lets in those who don't desire to assimilate and embrace said culture, the culture risks losing its identity. Restated: when a government gives everything free to people who have not earned it, who do not contribute to society by paying their fare share of taxes, and who refuse to learn the language then society suffers, anger and animosity grows, and a push back against those governmental policies follows.
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Old 09-29-2019, 01:30 AM
 
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I'm not quite sure what I'm supposed to see in that link that's supposed to make me think they're a group that's interested in spreading misinformation. They're a non profit with the goal to
"produce and distribute video-centric educational teaching units that encourage thoughtful consideration and critical thinking." Maybe you're seeing something on their website that gives you a negative impression?
Well it looks to be a media outlet dedicated to pushing the personal views on economics of Milton Friedman.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_to_Choose
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Old 09-29-2019, 02:10 AM
 
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Breithart news is not for serious. Just a fanzine, not different from the National Enquirer. People that only read that type of media end up paranoid.
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Old 09-29-2019, 02:24 AM
 
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In any case it's funny how much the west likes countries like Syria, Saudi Arabia, Algeria, Mexico etc while eastern europe is considered worse than India lol. Facts: 45% of the female population among the "dark smart people" from India can't even read while Romania has the 5th fastest internet speed in the world (everyone can read too...).


Not to mention Czechia, Slovenia etc who are better than one western country like Portugal in every aspect possible...the 20s and 30s will be fun with the "progressing" Arab-Anglo relations and China burrying the US-Mexico economy.
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Old 09-29-2019, 06:39 AM
 
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Perhaps a bad choice of words. I wasn't suggesting that I took joy in defeating her. I think she grew up with a certain amount of naivete and when she realized that the news reports about her country were true, and what the causes of her changing culture are, she felt defeated. I think she became a bit depressed.
Don't you think that maybe.. she might know a little better than whatever American news source you were pumping down her throat, cus, ya know, she grew up and lives there? Why did you feel that it was your duty to educate her about her own country, in the USA, with American news sources (that you openly admit are "partisan" and biased towards their base)? Have you ever lived in Sweden, or even been there?
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Old 09-29-2019, 08:55 AM
 
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I wish that it was politically correct to say that I prefer to not interact with other cultures that are significantly different from my own except on vacation. It would be great if I could interact only with significantly similar cultures in my own country. Rarely, after dealing with professionals who are significantly culturally different, reflecting on how I am treated, how I am perceived, and how I feel about doing it again, I prefer culturally similar.

Why is it politically incorrect to say this?
I don't think it's "politically incorrect" but it essentially means you wish to be poor, rural and isolated. Granted, this is your right. No one is forcing you to be successful, educated or cosmopolitan.

There is no way to successfully participate in the global economy without interacting with people different from you. This has been true for centuries.
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Old 09-29-2019, 09:05 AM
 
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Why do you have links to Breitbart? You know that's a silly, alt-right website, filled with hate and lies, right?

Austria, unlike Germany, was never de-Nazified following WW2. Remember that Austria welcomed in Hitler with open arms, and in fact he was more popular in Austria than in Germany itself.

Austrians, even today, are very receptive to hate movements and generally don't like Muslims or foreigners in general. They have always had very prominent nationalist parties.

And, BTW, I say this as a German citizen, with family in Austria. Different mentality. Keep in mind, too, that most Muslims in Austria are secular, white Eastern European Muslims. Vienna, in particular, has a TON of people from Eastern Europe. Lots of Bosnians, Albanians, Kosovars, Bulgarians. Mostly Muslim and VERY secular. Like they don't give a crap about anything having to do with religion.

Finally, not sure what you mean by "open borders". I am not aware of any person who believes in such a concept, or what it has to do with acceptance of immigration.



This poster just needs a weapon to round out his rant.
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