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Old 08-09-2010, 10:37 AM
 
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However, I would preach moderation with most things. If you eat in moderation, workout in moderation, eat healthy in moderation, etc., it's a good rule to follow.
The problem I have with this is that it's still too simple and too vague. When it comes to health and fitness, people are so easily intimidated by anything that sounds even slightly complicated that we've now had to dumb things down by saying "everything in moderation." What one person thinks is moderate another will think is too much.

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Depends on what you mean by "toned" I guess. I stretch to lengthen mine and to improve flexibility and I do strength training to add lean muscle mass to improve definition and also for my metabolism. (More lean muscle = higher resting metabolism.)
Sorry, but adding more muscle doesn't make you more tone. The muscle is still covered in a layer of fat. When most people think of tone and having more definition, they're referring to being more cut. That has nothing to do with how much muscle mass you have and everything to do with how much body fat you have.
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Old 08-09-2010, 10:47 AM
 
Location: The Hall of Justice
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When most people think of tone and having more definition, they're referring to being more cut. That has nothing to do with how much muscle mass you have and everything to do with how much body fat you have.
Both are important. A thin person without muscles is not toned. That's just skinny. Having lower body fat is only the half of it.
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Old 08-09-2010, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Back in the gym...Yo Adrian!
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In the gym trying to learn pull-ups. The trainer came over to help me jump up to the bar. That bastrd put his hands on the back of my thighs.

Trainer: I'ma give you a boast
Me: Ah, you don't boost me from there
Trainer: My bad
Me: WTF!

I work and workout with the military. I know your hands don't belong on my thighs.
Yeah, the proper way to give you a boost is for him to cup his hands under your feet and make sure your body is directly under the bar. So that you lightly push off his hands with the tips of your toes or tops of your laces. He can angle off to the side so his face isn't all in your situation either.

I get a kick out of the gym-stalkers who gradually work there way over to the females in the gym so they can offer "assistance". Funny how none of those good samaritans ever offer other men any assistance or unsolicited advice.
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Old 08-09-2010, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Back in the gym...Yo Adrian!
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HCG is still the worst I've ever heard.

But, some other really bad fitness info that I hear are when people make recommendations or start threads saying how certain NON exercise things are great exercises to do. Things like:

Walk to the market
Work in the garden
Play with the cats
Walk the dog
Take a "brisk" walk. WTF is a "brisk" walk? Why not just jog?

If you want to say things things are great, then please add the caveat of "....these are only great if you are Zsa Zsa Gabor or a sickly 400 pounder, but still, dont expect to get in good health doing this"
Actually, there is a good deal of truth in this. I often hear the same thing--"did you know that just by sitting on the computer and typing you're burning calories?" Well yeah, you can burn calories in your sleep too, that doesn't mean it's going to help you achieve any sort of fitness goal or prevent heart disease.

I don't think everyone needs to be training for a decathalon, and so long as you are doing something each day, even if it's a 20 minute power walk it's better than nothing. As a matter of fact, over exertion is just as unhealthy as not enough exercise. The human body wasn't really designed to run marathons and swim across the English Channel. But it's often the people who need exercise the most who try to get away with doing the least. So they think it's fine to say they are getting their daily exercise in while washing the dishes.
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Old 08-09-2010, 12:35 PM
 
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As a matter of fact, over exertion is just as unhealthy as not enough exercise. The human body wasn't really designed to run marathons and swim across the English Channel.
You obviously haven't read "Born to Run"

If you haven't, you should...the people described in that book make us so-called fitness nuts look like couch-potatoes.
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Old 08-09-2010, 01:11 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Yeah, the proper way to give you a boost is for him to cup his hands under your feet and make sure your body is directly under the bar. So that you lightly push off his hands with the tips of your toes or tops of your laces. He can angle off to the side so his face isn't all in your situation either.

I get a kick out of the gym-stalkers who gradually work there way over to the females in the gym so they can offer "assistance". Funny how none of those good samaritans ever offer other men any assistance or unsolicited advice.
That's not how you boost a jump up to the bar. Hips or waist. The trainer can then assist you back up as you do negatives (for example, very necessary for women who are trying to do chin-ups or pull-ups in the beginning).

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Old 08-09-2010, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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you lightly push off his hands with the tips of your toes or tops of your laces. He can angle off to the side so his face isn't all in your situation either.
I've noticed. Most of the time it's maybe two woman in the weight room. That's including me. You need some help. Nope.

I've had a guy ask me did I need him to teach me how to do squats. I mean really dude!

The funny part, a guy trying to teach you some ab work. His belly needs some major work. This is how you do it. Nah, dude, that's alright.

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I get a kick out of the gym-stalkers
Sometimes, the weight room for a woman is like walking into the lion's den. Thank goodness for the ipod.
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Old 08-09-2010, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Back in the gym...Yo Adrian!
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That's not how you boost a jump up to the bar. Hips or waist. The trainer can then assist you back up as you do negatives (for example, very necessary for women who are trying to do chin-ups or pull-ups in the beginning).
Yes, you are correct, the initial jump to the bar would be boosted from the waist, similar to a ballet dancer lifting his partner in the air. Once you are up on the bar, your partner then assists you at your feet, to align you properly beneath the bar and to give the least amount of support necessary to get to the top. Regardless the spotter shouldn't be assisting by pushing under the thighs.
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Old 08-09-2010, 03:32 PM
 
Location: NYC
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I've noticed. Most of the time it's maybe two woman in the weight room. That's including me. You need some help. Nope.

I've had a guy ask me did I need him to teach me how to do squats. I mean really dude!

The funny part, a guy trying to teach you some ab work. His belly needs some major work. This is how you do it. Nah, dude, that's alright.



Sometimes, the weight room for a woman is like walking into the lion's den. Thank goodness for the ipod.
How are all of you women being sexually harassed and pandered to in the weight room? This has never happened to me, and I have never witnessed it happening to other people, and I have worked out in every major and secondary city in this country.
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Old 08-09-2010, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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This has never happened to me
I know how to workout, so I don't need a man to teach me. I've had several trainers. I don't need a guy, unless it's a heavy plate on the bar.

Not sure why it hasn't happen to you sweetie.
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