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Old 01-15-2012, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
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It's sad, to me, that your life is so shallow that you'd laugh at someone else's efforts.
Actually, I feel regret that obese individuals are being taught the wrong thing to lose weight.

Don't see how that's shallow.

Also, I am laughing at your lack of comprehension of my post.
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Old 01-15-2012, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Wherever women are
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I would not call it a scam but I have been with a personal trainer and a member of a gym since last Jan 2011 I have not seen any results, meaning that I still wear the same size pants when I first started. I am very close to giving up and I have spent loads of money hoping that I would lose weight that I will never obtain back
Okay, did you analyze the situation and do a post mortem check of why it did not work?

Can you please share your experience with the trainer? Did he request you to maintain something like a food journal? Did you see any weight loss at all?

I commend your honesty, Amber. Takes a lot of guts to make this public. But you can achieve the target yourself.
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Old 01-15-2012, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
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Why?

Every pound of muscle you put on (wherever it is) burns calories for you all day. You need your triceps to be strong to support a variety of other larger muscle group exercises.
Yep. Guess how a 144 pound male is able to dumb bell bench 125 dumb bells? Not tricep kickbacks. Haven't done an arm exercise in four or five years.

Tricep kickbacks are used as an assistance exercise yes and for body buildiers. It is a very inefficient way for obese individuals to lose weight.
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Old 01-15-2012, 04:22 PM
 
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I would not call it a scam but I have been with a personal trainer and a member of a gym since last Jan 2011 I have not seen any results, meaning that I still wear the same size pants when I first started. I am very close to giving up and I have spent loads of money hoping that I would lose weight that I will never obtain back

What did YOU do to lose the weight? Did you follow the trainer's plan? How was your diet? How consistent were you with both diet and exercise? What did your trainer tell you to do?
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Old 01-15-2012, 04:24 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Try this. 20 minutes on the stepmill.

Break it into four 5 minute sessions. You can set it to manual.

Every 5 minutes should be like this:
First 3 - level 8, climb the stairs, hands free, not even on the hip or head
End 2 - level 12, climb double steps, hold the handles, hold, not support

Repeat 4 times.

Let me know how it feels. If it hurts too much, stop. Don't say I didn't warn you.

Nobody needs routines They need body bothering exercises. These are sweat generators. I do 45 minutes of this after weights training. Killer workout. I get off the stepmill absolutely ravaged.
But that's not fun! I really enjoy the classes and the people in them.

IF I could do all that (names above) on my own - that'd be great. I'll be the first to admit I'm probably not going to kill myself unless someone is watching. That could be a trainer/coach or just the other class members.
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Old 01-15-2012, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Okay, did you analyze the situation and do a post mortem check of why it did not work?

Can you please share your experience with the trainer? Did he request you to maintain something like a food journal? Did you see any weight loss at all?

I commend your honesty, Amber. Takes a lot of guts to make this public. But you can achieve the target yourself.
Personally I think the older a person gets, the more difficult it will be to lose weight. I have numerous pounds to lose (way more than 80+) for privacy reasons I won't tell you the real amount but I Have been going to the gym off and on. It was my New Years Resolution and yet here is the new year of 2012 and I am back where I started. The only benefits I have gotten out of exercise was more energy and slightly better skin nothing drastic. I can honestly say nothing has shrunk, my weight is all in my stomach and it is not any smaller then when I first started. I don't even know why I bother anymore

When I was with my 1st trainer let's call him Bob, he instructed me that in order for a person to lose weight I needed to get my diet on track. You can do all the exercise in the world but still remain the same weight. He instructed that I cut out fast food, junk foods, and as well as processed foods. He did instruct me to keep a food journal I will admit that I did eat some of the foods he advised me to avoid but not nearly as much as when I decided that I needed to get healthy for my own good. I stopped putting salt on my food and limited sauces like ketchup or not use it at all.

In the gym, he had me do an hour of cardiov and 30 minutes of strength training. He would always correct me if I was doing something wrong and he would PUSH me. No pain no gain right? After the work out my body was on FIRE. I was eating healthier foods and feeling great my mind set towards the future of how good and how better I will feel once I get this weight off of me. And then Bob had moved to another city. We rarely keep in touch anymore. We are friends on Facebook but that is about it.

Now I have a new trainer who is very encouraging but I have seen his other clients and frankly they DO seem to be slimming down, nothing drastic but I see some results. He has me on the same routine, I go into the gym Tues-Sat. He likes to focus more on strength while Bob was more focused on cardio exercise. He tells me he puts high emphasis on strength training since muscles burn more calories even when you are not doing any activity. The highest I can lift is 50lbs and strength exercise is more intense than cardio, which is my opinion. However this trainer always seems to be on his cellphone or talking to his buddies rather than focusing on his clients. That is my biggest complaint I have to remind him of how much time has passed and when to move me from machine to machine since I like variety. He is frequently absent I know people have lives but c'mon! I am highly considering switching trainers one who is more serious about helping people change their lives.
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Old 01-15-2012, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Wine Country
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If I hired a trainer and he talked on his cellphone AT ALL I would fire him on the spot and demand my money back.

Trainers do not make you lose weight and get into shape. They give you the tools to do it yourself.
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Old 01-15-2012, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
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If I hired a trainer and he talked on his cellphone AT ALL I would fire him on the spot and demand my money back.

Trainers do not make you lose weight and get into shape. They give you the tools to do it yourself.
Nice one.
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Old 01-15-2012, 09:45 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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I was in a very popular chain gym in NYC and remember seeing an obese trainer. I could not believe a premium chain gym would hire someone with such a big gut! I also could not believe he actually had clients who listened to him. Seems like a lot of trainers are not actually certified, they just get a crash course from the gym and told to go fetch some suckers (clients). I believe all trainers should be professionally certified.

I use to be completely against trainers hogging up equipment with very obese clients. They should be at the cardio machines and dieting. But then I realized it's better for them to build some muscle so they burn more calories in the long run. They still need to stick to a diet + cardio plan more and strength train less.
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Old 01-16-2012, 06:17 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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I was in a very popular chain gym in NYC and remember seeing an obese trainer. I could not believe a premium chain gym would hire someone with such a big gut! I also could not believe he actually had clients who listened to him. Seems like a lot of trainers are not actually certified, they just get a crash course from the gym and told to go fetch some suckers (clients). I believe all trainers should be professionally certified.
Agreed. However, if I was shopping for a PT, I would *ask* them what their qualifications are. Wouldn't you?

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I use to be completely against trainers hogging up equipment with very obese clients. They should be at the cardio machines and dieting. But then I realized it's better for them to build some muscle so they burn more calories in the long run. They still need to stick to a diet + cardio plan more and strength train less.
Being that you're such a proponent of certification/education for PTs, I assume you are certified or have some sort of excercise science/nutrition degree to back up the bolded claim?
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