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Old 02-17-2012, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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Nope, didn't miss it at all. However, you also said:



Since you asked specifically about why the *athletes* don't do CrossFit in your earlier post, I was trying to stay on topic.
Ok, I see where you got confused. I guess I should have asked why the trainers weren't having their athletes do Crossfit.

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So, then, how about the trainers you know, Aragon and Tuten? Why do they say they don't train their athletes that way?
Because, in short, it's entirely worthless for professional athletes. Alan actually gave a pretty good post breaking this down over on BB.com, and I think I linked to it in another thread. I'll dig around and see if I can find it.
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Old 02-17-2012, 01:35 PM
 
Location: NJ
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i would think athletes spend a certain time in the gym building muscle then focus on stuff that specifically relate to their sport.
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Old 02-17-2012, 01:58 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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That's essentially what I said earlier, too, NJ. A program that touts the fact that it is *not* specialized is not a good choice for athletes who need to be specialized since they are at the elite levels.
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Old 02-17-2012, 02:22 PM
 
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That's essentially what I said earlier, too, NJ. A program that touts the fact that it is *not* specialized is not a good choice for athletes who need to be specialized since they are at the elite levels.
But I addressed that earlier when I pointed out that with the exception of a couple positions, football players want to be as strong and fast as possible, something Crossfit hypes itself as being perfect for. The training is not all that specialized.

It sounds to me as if you're acknowledging that Crossfit is really just something for couch potatoes and average to get in decent shape. I'd say that's a pretty fair statement.
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Old 02-17-2012, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
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There may be a few outliers of individuals at elite levels doing crossfit..
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Old 02-17-2012, 02:44 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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...It sounds to me as if you're acknowledging that Crossfit is really just something for couch potatoes and average to get in decent shape. I'd say that's a pretty fair statement.

Read into it whatever you like. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, as I'm more than aware that's a lost cause.

Until you can do some of these WODs at the level of even regional competitors, you're in no position to criticize the kind of "shape" they're in, IMO.
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Old 02-17-2012, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
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"The needs of Olympic athletes and our grandparents differ by degree not kind"

To me, this says that Elite level athletes should consider CrossFit or a program with "universal scalability" [The Cross Fit program is designed for universal scalability making it the perfect application] because needs of athletes aren't fulfilled by specialization.

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The benefits of belonging to an affiliate are clear: quality coaching, a sense of community and working with a group of people who have a common purpose. But what if an affiliate is not available to you for whatever reason?
There are a couple of routes you can follow: you can start to accumulate your own equipment and build a garage gym, you can follow the never-gym-less philosophy popularized by Ross Enamait, or you can head to the neighborhood Globo.
For the economically challenged or those who don’t live near an affiliate, joining a big box gym is usually cheap. Other perks include showers, and most of them have pools and lots of weights, and some of the people there—although misled by the mainstream fitness philosophy—are quite friendly. So if you are a self-starter with built-in motivation, then it is possible to thrive as a CrossFitter in a Globo environment.... Globo Friendly by Michael Campi - CrossFit Journal

First, I think it is ridiculous that Cross Fit types say, "globo". Second, Cross Fit is about adaptation. If a Crossfitter, with their supreme fitness, does not know how to work out at a regular gym, then they don't have a generalized idea of fitness. Either that or, "sense of community and working with a group of people who have a common purpose", has coddled CrossFitters to the point of children without their mommy.
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Old 02-20-2012, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
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Old 02-20-2012, 04:23 PM
 
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I would agree crossfit is not for everyone... but if I was a personal trainer/fitness instructor, what the hell do you do with all the crank-cases whining about this and that and not think this or that is fun, wanting quick-results bla bla... I'd take a finished concept too and just go with it. because really, if You've ever worked with instructing, god known you feel like dropping some of the clients. I never did it professionally, but when 3/4 are whiners I can only immagine what a royal pain in the ass it would be to have it as a full-time job.
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Old 02-20-2012, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
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I would agree crossfit is not for everyone... but if I was a personal trainer/fitness instructor, what the hell do you do with all the crank-cases whining about this and that and not think this or that is fun, wanting quick-results bla bla... I'd take a finished concept too and just go with it. because really, if You've ever worked with instructing, god known you feel like dropping some of the clients. I never did it professionally, but when 3/4 are whiners I can only immagine what a royal pain in the ass it would be to have it as a full-time job.
I'll add on to the fact that 'not listening' is quite frequent as well.
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