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Old 07-02-2013, 10:04 AM
 
Location: WNC
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I usually keep supplementation very simple. A quality protein supplement, and a quality creatine, with daily glucosamine and vitamin C. For a preworkout boost, I do a banana, milk, protein, creatine, and peanut butter smoothie, with a cup of green tea(real green tea, not Liptons)
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Old 07-02-2013, 10:58 AM
 
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I don't use a pre-workout supplement. Namely because I try and keep my supplement purchases to a minimum and I would rather eat than drink something. Also, your body can adapt to some of these supplements and you will need to cycle through them. I like to keep things simple so I avoid using them.

I eat a meal an hour before I hit the gym and I am good to go.

Are you getting enough sleep at night?
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Old 07-02-2013, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Just wanted to chime in about creatine; I still have no idea why so many people equate creatine with steroid abuse. Like skel said, it's one of the only proven, safe and effective supplements out there.

Creatine - In-Depth Scientific Supplement Information | Examine.com
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Old 07-02-2013, 07:20 PM
 
Location: WNC
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I think that whole misconception died off a long time ago, at least in the mainstream. But I do remember when Mark McGwire first said he took creatine, and everyone thought it was a steroid(though he was on the juice to).
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Old 07-03-2013, 06:40 AM
 
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Since we are on the subject. I just came across this

This is just one example. They tested all flavors of craze. Gotta be careful which supps you are taking since their main goal is to make money.






This is from Patrick Arnolds Blog


As I said in my last piece, things are moving fast in this Craze scandal. Word just came out today that the product was tested in Sweden and confirmed to contain the same meth analog that the Australian federal police said they identified
“In this material we found substances chemically similar to amphetamine and that probably would have similar effects to amphetamine has been says Anna Stenfeldt Henning, Head, Drug Analysis Unit, SKL.”


SKL is the Swedish National Lab for Forensic Science. The Swedes refer to the chemical as N-ethyl-1-phenyl-2-butylamine, but it also goes by the names N,alpha-diethylbenzeneethanamine and N,alpha-diethylphenethylamine. As I mentioned in my last installment it is considered a structural isomer of methamphetamine. Why is it considered a structural isomer to methamphetamine while some other phenethylamine derivatives are not? If you want to get technical it is because it contains an alkyl (hydrocarbon chain) alpha to the nitrogen atom. The presence of the alkyl group blocks the enzyme monoamine oxidase, which normally inactivates such neurotransmitter type compounds. In other words it makes it potent so you get the classic “speed” high.


This testing by the Swedes comes on the heels of a consumer who took Craze for two weeks and ended up in the hospital. This case led the magazine SVT Nyheter to contact the SKL who then took it upon themselves to test the product.


The makers of Craze have responded to SVY Nyheter by claiming that their product does not contain the meth analog and that it must be one of the counterfeit Craze jars that allegedly have been floating around europe. However, SVT Nyheter contacted the retailer that they bought the Craze from and they claimed to have bought it directly from Driven Sports.

I have yet to hear of any action regarding this product here in the states. Online retailers continue to sell the product. I don’t know if that is going to continue for long. The liability of selling a product with the knowledge that it may contain an illegal and potentially dangerous substance might be too risky for large distributors and retailers. Usually in situations such as this the product is put on temporary hold until more information is available and the situation clarified, because not to do so puts a company at potentially greater legal risk in the future should the fears be confirmed and a criminal investigation launched.
So if you love your Craze, and you don’t care about any of the scary stuff coming to light lately, you might want to stock up.



Could just be a marketing scam but i wouldnt chance it

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Old 07-03-2013, 04:38 PM
 
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Further proof that Craze® does not contain amphetamines | Blog

OF course, that's from a Driven Sports site. So.


I'll just say - I don't feel like I've taken speed when I take Craze.
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Old 07-03-2013, 09:21 PM
 
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What I do is drink a packet of EmergenC 30-45 minutes before the gym. I also might eat an orange or a banana, but oranges work best. This has worked very well for cardio, which is my focus.
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Old 07-03-2013, 11:05 PM
 
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Caffeine with Ephedrine!
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