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I referenced BMI because that's a big part of being clinically obese is by definition (please look it up). I never said that I agree with that definition or that just because someone technically meets it means that they are necessarily unhealthy. That said, I don't advise the OP (or anyone else that wants to ask) to gain a whole lot of body mass just because they think it will look good now. It's hard to maintain and puts a real strain on the body over time (think 'giant muscle man' here, not 'Bruce Lee'). … but if someone has considered the drawbacks and decided that their sport or ideal physique requires it, then that's their choice and I can respect that.
Giant muscle men get that way un-naturally, almost all of the time. Rare few have the genetics and discipline and pain tolerance to get to that point naturally.
If you don't agree with the definition and feel that just because someone meets it they aren't automatically unhealthy, then why the f*** did you even bring it up? Clinically doesn't mean jack squat if it's way off base. BMI is a very very VERY general thing, it doesn't work well for athletes. Hell, technically I'm clinically overweight, yet I'm sitting at 12% body fat, which is in the low end of what's considered healthy with 18% or more still considered okay (which I personally don't agree with for men).
Decent muscle mass doesn't have a negative affect on the body or strain it, please don't even try to spread that kind of misinformation. Being weak and devoid of muscle mass is what's un-natural, not having healthy muscle mass levels and corresponding strength levels (generally as a base level, be able to do 10-15 pull ups, squat your bodyweight for over 5 reps, bench your body weights at least a few times).
Taking steroids is a different story and not what I'm talking about. If your doing heavy compound lifts with free weights, your bones, tendons, ligaments, lungs, heart, etc are all developing along with your muscles. Bone density and muscle mass in general are priceless in old age, and can only be significantly gained with relative ease when your young. So all 16-35 year olds reading this, get in the gym and eat clean, your 65-85 year old self will thank you.
A slim person can definitely build muscle. Go to bodybuilding.com and click on Bodyspace. Then search for people who are similar to your body weight, height and age. You'll see a big difference in body shapes - the ones with 5% body fat are ripped and the ones over 20% body fat are less defined and more pudgy.
So in other words you made yourself clinically obese (BMI) with muscle? OP, don't do that. Stay slim, just get yourself up into the 'ideal' range if you can, otherwise don't worry about it. Weight will come in time and extra body mass (even in the form of muscle) puts strain on your body over time.
I am quickly reminded why I find myself spending less and less time from this site. If you are seriously going to throw out "BMI" as credibility in an attempt to classify a person weight as being healthy or not, you have no reason to be in this thread or giving advice about anything fitness related.
Of course, you later back pedal and state you were using it "loosely" but to even call me out directly, spouting such misinformation is laughable at best..
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought this thread was about slim people building muscle, period.
I am quickly reminded why I find myself spending less and less time from this site. If you are seriously going to throw out "BMI" as credibility in an attempt to classify a person weight as being healthy or not, you have no reason to be in this thread or giving advice about anything fitness related.
Of course, you later back pedal and state you were using it "loosely" but to even call me out directly, spouting such misinformation is laughable at best..
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought this thread was about slim people building muscle, period.
But he said "clinically" obese, should have said "ignorantly defined" as obese.
It's absolutely possible. But gaining mass is a science that requires a proper diet and workout regiment. Most people falsely assume that if you go in the gym and lift a lot you will gain mass. I was actually in the exact same boat as you until I learned the proper regiment for gaining mass. I noticed you haven’t posted in this thread for a while. If your still interested feel free to PM me and I will give you exact details that are guaranteed to help you gain mass if you follow them to the letter.
If you are seriously going to throw out "BMI" as credibility in an attempt to classify a person weight as being healthy or not, you have no reason to be in this thread or giving advice about anything fitness related.
BMI is a less than accurate metric, that's no secret. But it's still a metric that the medical field gives considerable weight to, right or wrong. That's why I used the word CLINICAL at my very first post (read it) and not as a back-pedal later on. When I see people getting incensed over those three letters, it makes me think that their primary goal is to be big and they really don't want to hear otherwise in any way, shape or form. Am I wrong about that?
He claims he never has used steroids, which is believable.
I'm 6' 1" and 160 lbs, but my body fat is only 4%. I workout 1 day a week and I'm a pretty well built man. I'm looking to realistically ad and grow maybe 10 lbs, but my diet is super clean and it something I will not change. I do not do protein shakes either, as I prefer to eat meat, eggs, dairy instead to make up for the protein in my diet. I do not eat processed foods or grains. You just have to have a goal, and a way to get there. It's easier said than done, you have to not only work hard, but work properly. If you have poor technique or do not allow your body the time it needs to recover and build new muscle you will never see gains.
A slim person can definitely build muscle. Go to bodybuilding.com and click on Bodyspace. Then search for people who are similar to your body weight, height and age. You'll see a big difference in body shapes - the ones with 5% body fat are ripped and the ones over 20% body fat are less defined and more pudgy.
How do you find a person (in my case female) who is your weight and height on that site?
I'm 6' 1" and 160 lbs, but my body fat is only 4%. I workout 1 day a week and I'm a pretty well built man. I'm looking to realistically ad and grow maybe 10 lbs, but my diet is super clean and it something I will not change. I do not do protein shakes either, as I prefer to eat meat, eggs, dairy instead to make up for the protein in my diet. I do not eat processed foods or grains. You just have to have a goal, and a way to get there. It's easier said than done, you have to not only work hard, but work properly. If you have poor technique or do not allow your body the time it needs to recover and build new muscle you will never see gains.
What kind of diet are you on that helped you get to 4%? Just the name would be fine, I don't want you to waste your time typing the details. I'm willing to do the research myself.
What kind of diet are you on that helped you get to 4%? Just the name would be fine, I don't want you to waste your time typing the details. I'm willing to do the research myself.
Paleodiet, all natural...nothing from a can or precooked.
No grains (gluten), milk or sugary items. Veg, fruit, meat, eggs, some dairy (hard cheeses like vermont cheddar), water, green tea to drink, I also enjoy honey on occasion.
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