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Old 12-17-2015, 08:59 PM
 
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It still comes down to who you associate with. If you took an obese person and made him or her room with a bunch of Crossfit people changes would happen.

1st: The fat person would stop eating after he or she was full

2nd:The fat person would stop basing his or her weekends around food

3rd: The fat person would do some form of low intensity excercise.

The fat person would start to see results and become just as motivated as the Crossfit people or perhaps more so. Why is it that Scandinavia and Southern Europe are fit? Peer pressure.
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Old 12-17-2015, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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It still comes down to who you associate with. If you took an obese person and made him or her room with a bunch of Crossfit people changes would happen.

1st: The fat person would stop eating after he or she was full

2nd:The fat person would stop basing his or her weekends around food

3rd: The fat person would do some form of low intensity excercise.

The fat person would start to see results and become just as motivated as the Crossfit people or perhaps more so. Why is it that Scandinavia and Southern Europe are fit? Peer pressure.
Ok, back to reality. Fit friends aren't around 24/7, nor will they be for the duration of ones life. This is something someone has to learn and constantly execute on their own.

I'm not sure what exactly we are discussing here? Being fit/getting in shape or eating healthy? <two different things.
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Old 12-17-2015, 10:56 PM
 
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Something doesn't add up.

Have you ever read what some of the "fitness buffs" on here actually do. There are folks on here hwho run marathons, lift weights and do other sports.

I went though jump school in the Army with people who probably describe it as being in the best shape of their life. They would be puking by the side of the road during morning runs. They were actually slow runs in formation.
I hear you. The military has a lot of people who are actually in pretty horrible shape. All of the service branches except for the Marines have pretty lenient body fat standards and easy-to-pass physical fitness tests. If you score the minimum on your PT test and you're a few pounds shy of your maximum weight allowance, you're not in great shape at all. Yet, many of these people delude themselves into thinking they are.
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Old 12-18-2015, 02:23 AM
 
Location: A coal patch in Pennsyltucky
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Ok, back to reality. Fit friends aren't around 24/7, nor will they be for the duration of ones life. This is something someone has to learn and constantly execute on their own.

I'm not sure what exactly we are discussing here? Being fit/getting in shape or eating healthy? <two different things.
I agree. The OP asked about starting an exercise program, not about eating healthy. It is good to do both but they are separate issues. Some people can do one but not the other.
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Old 12-18-2015, 01:07 PM
 
Location: New Yawk
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On the subject of feeling a "rush" after working out, I found that only times it hasn't happened is if I didn't really push myself hard enough, or if I didn't eat properly before and after working out. Makes sense, because endorphins kick in after intense exercise, and glycogen depletion can block endorphins.
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Old 12-18-2015, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Encino, CA
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I agree. The OP asked about starting an exercise program, not about eating healthy.
By using the word "fail" we are assuming that they actually BEGAN some kind of exercise program. Well, when it comes to failing to getting in shape in terms of exercise and/or an exercise program, I think people fail because they make the mistake of easing into things waaaaaaaay too slowly or they take horrible advice from people who know nothing about exercise. Some examples we've all heard are:

"Im going to do light weight with high reps because I heard from somewhere that it works"
"Im going join a gym after I lose some weight from my walking"
"Working in my garden and walking my dog is exercise"

These are all total B.S. things that people who fail tend to do.

Not knowing what to do really is a killer. This is why I always stress education education education. Learn about nutrition, and sign up with a good gym like Crossfit and you'll be on the path to success.
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Old 12-18-2015, 01:48 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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IMO. Motivation, commitment, and the understanding that being fit isn't something that comes easily.

Most people fail miserably on the diet part, making getting fit that much more difficult.

Pretty much this. I would add "quickly" to the bit about it coming easily, as well.

Fitness is a journey, not a destination. Most folks don't appreciate that it can easily takes years to get into the shape that they want to be in.
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Old 12-18-2015, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Whittier
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I'm seeing a lot of "they" in this thread.

Personally I fail because I'm tired from work, I stress eat and just want to rest or do other hobbies.

When I start a workout/diet regimen I see some results, but then feel better, then go back to old habits.

Often I'll start too hard, get shin splints and then quit.

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I think me and a lot of people take it on as an all or nothing thing, when actually it doesn't have to be. Also people should learn to accept that they can be healthy and not be super ripped or super thin.

So I'd recommend that people slowly get into a system and not go crazy. Learn to eat less of the same first, before you totally start weighing your food. Start with walking, before you try to run a 5k.

I've found that by incorporating small, more doable habits its MUCH easier to ramp up to a more hardcore workout/diet, and from there it becomes more of a lifestyle that suits YOU.

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I also think a lot of people (like myself) tend to think of losing weight as a byproduct of fear. Fear of getting too fat, fear of disease...and although those are valid reasons to lose weight/be healthy, I think it can be detrimental to some in the long term if working out isn't associated more with positive things like a fun activity or working out because the work out is FUN.
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Old 12-20-2015, 08:57 PM
 
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I think diet...most of the times people don't know how to balance their food. When it comes to weight loss, some of them actually reduce the food intake or eat just boiled vegetables, which I didn't find a healthier way.
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Old 12-20-2015, 09:24 PM
 
Location: A coal patch in Pennsyltucky
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I think diet...most of the times people don't know how to balance their food. When it comes to weight loss, some of them actually reduce the food intake or eat just boiled vegetables, which I didn't find a healthier way.
The question was: "Why do you think most people fail when it comes to getting in shape?," not Why do you think most people fail when it comes to dieting?

There really is a difference.
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