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Old 07-12-2012, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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today I did 10 1/2 mile repeats which I do once/week.

30 minutes of core & lifting work.

1.5 mile slow warmup jog

10x .5 mile at just under 6 min/mi, with .25 mi. recovery jog in between each.

2.91 miles barefoot cooldown jog 7 mph pace. 11.66 total miles, 90.0 minutes.
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Old 07-13-2012, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
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Decided to sign up for the Vegas Rock n' Roll Marathon. Rather than not training like I did for the half marathon, I'll probably train minimally for the marathon.

One 6-8 mile run a month on the weekend, other three weekends will be 4-6 mile runs. 2-3 mile 'conditinoing' runs 2x a week. One 10-15 mile run from now until Dec. 2.

Ran 1:55 at 6500 ft elevation for a half with no training, so I reckon' a bit of running at 2200ft elevation might serve some good.
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Decided to sign up for the Vegas Rock n' Roll Marathon. Rather than not training like I did for the half marathon, I'll probably train minimally for the marathon.

One 6-8 mile run a month on the weekend, other three weekends will be 4-6 mile runs. 2-3 mile 'conditinoing' runs 2x a week. One 10-15 mile run from now until Dec. 2.

Ran 1:55 at 6500 ft elevation for a half with no training, so I reckon' a bit of running at 2200ft elevation might serve some good.

W/ your proclivities I think you would be much better served to enter some 5K (3.1 miles) races than half or full marathons. IIRC your mile time is pretty good, so who knows, maybe you could be competitive in the 5K.

It's somewhat a misconception that you don't have runner cred unless you run full marathons. Speed is tougher than distance. I don't see a 90 minute half marathon as a daunting task, but a 15 minute 5K is a bear.

The main difference is that training for the longer distances (if you do it right), is much more time consuming. What is really the point of entering a race that you haven't trained for. I wouldn't expect to enter a weightlifting contest with my regimen of doing a few curls, bench presses, etc. several times a week, done with little rhyme or reason.
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Old 07-17-2012, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
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Never thought of it that way....thumbs up!
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Old 08-25-2012, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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today did about 30-45 min of core & weightlifting, then the good part:

1 mile warmup jog at slow pace (6.6 mph)
1 mile warmup at slightly faster (7 mph)
8 miles at medium pace (8.7 mph, or just under 7 min/mile pace)
2.5 miles barefoot running at 7 mph.

total 12.5 miles, 94 min, 21 seconds.
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Old 09-26-2012, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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15.0 miles in park 1 hr 50 minutes, approx 7:20 min/mile pace. Planning to run seattle marathon, only about 60 days from now.
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Old 10-07-2012, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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ran 18 miles in the park today, slow pace, with a 5 min break about 1 hour into the run to run back home and take clothes out of the dryer, haha. 6 weeks to the Seattle Marathon, but in reality more like 5 since the last week before the race will have to be a taper week.

My goal is anything sub 3 hrs. Based on my 1/2 mile repeats (which is about 805 meters), and according to the 'Yasso 800s' formula, I should be able to do about 2:50, but I really doubt that because I haven't been doing enough long runs over the past 6 months or so. Too lazy!
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
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What a runner you are, wutitz.
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Old 10-09-2012, 02:54 PM
 
Location: A coal patch in Pennsyltucky
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ran 18 miles in the park today, slow pace, with a 5 min break about 1 hour into the run to run back home and take clothes out of the dryer, haha. 6 weeks to the Seattle Marathon, but in reality more like 5 since the last week before the race will have to be a taper week.

My goal is anything sub 3 hrs. Based on my 1/2 mile repeats (which is about 805 meters), and according to the 'Yasso 800s' formula, I should be able to do about 2:50, but I really doubt that because I haven't been doing enough long runs over the past 6 months or so. Too lazy!
What is your longest run?

I could never understand the theory that a 20 mile long run is long enough for marathon training.
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:05 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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What is your longest run?

I could never understand the theory that a 20 mile long run is long enough for marathon training.
I instinctively tend to agree. I always figured that if you want to race x miles you should have run x+ miles in training. I never forget the first time I read about an elite female marathoner talking about her training, and she said that her longest training run was under 20 miles. I figured she was just lazy. But of course she was a lot faster than me.

But some knowledgable people say that it's not necessary or even beneficial to run over 20 miles in training.
http://www.runnersworld.com/article/...791-0,00.htmls

An argument I've seen is that runs over 20 miles cause so much tissue damage that further training is compromised. I don't know, but I plan to run 20 miles next sunday and will do at least one 26 mile run before the Seattle marathon on Nov 25. I would prefer to do more; it goes against the grain to be underprepared. I could be wrong though.
Is the Long Run Overrated? | Running Times Magazine

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according to the master himself, Arthur Lydiard, it takes only one carefully timed extra long run (2.5 to 3 hours) five to six weeks before the race to increase the capillary beds in the muscles. For multiple runs over 3 hours duration, however, the law of diminishing returns kicks in as far as any cardiovascular improvement is concerned. The mental benefit of knowing one can handle the distance must be weighed against the down-time required to recover.
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