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I don't think having a higher BMI under certain conditions is a bad thing. If you were 5'11 150 vs 5'11 190 but had the same % of body fat, I don't think you'd be worse off. Fitness could be the same but performance could increase with the added muscle.
Don't you have to be fit to be able to perform? Last I heard, that was a major criterion. DaBeez mentioned Larry Allen and Tony Siragusa. Allen may have been one of the strongest men on Earth in his prime, and both he and Siragusa had explosive strength, deceptive speed, lots of flexibility and enough muscular endurance and aerobic capacity to play at the high level required of the NFL.
Perform what?? Someone that carries the title "strongest man on earth" could be, and probably is, a far cry from the peak of physical health. Fitness, as related to a specific activity is one thing. But the general term "physically fit" is not directed at a specific activity.
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Because it is my right to do so. I didn't know I had to have the same opinion as others to post on what you even have acknowledged is a PUBLIC forum.
Well of course it is. I just don't understand why you would argue a point with people when you have already admitted knowing that most don't share your views. Seems pointless. But you go right ahead.
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I posted what I did because I felt a need to express my opinion, which is the purpose of a forum. If you don't understand it, well.......I can't help you.
I understand expressing an opinion. I don't understand arguing the point. You seem overly defensive about your own physical condition, and perhaps that taints your perspective a bit. I could be wrong - it just sounds that way.
FWIW, I do agree that BMI is a fairly useless stat. Body fat % is far more indicative of physical fitness.
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Perform what?? Someone that carries the title "strongest man on earth" could be, and probably is, a far cry from the peak of physical health. Fitness, as related to a specific activity is one thing. But the general term "physically fit" is not directed at a specific activity.
Performance measures transcend specific sports and activities; measures such as BMI don't. When you perform at a high level in an activity that requires many different aspects of fitness, you are fit. I have outlined this ad nauseum and you continue to try to devote your rebuttals to things I have already rebutted. I mentioned the strength of Larry Allen but continued to say that he was fit in an overall sense and you just ignored that. You have an agenda, and since facts fly in the face of that agenda, you simply ignore them.
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Well of course it is. I just don't understand why you would argue a point with people when you have already admitted knowing that most don't share your views. Seems pointless. But you go right ahead.
No more pointless than what you are doing here.
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I understand expressing an opinion. I don't understand arguing the point. You seem overly defensive about your own physical condition, and perhaps that taints your perspective a bit. I could be wrong - it just sounds that way.
If I seem defensive about my condition, it is because of the prejudices of people who think like you.
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FWIW, I do agree that BMI is a fairly useless stat. Body fat % is far more indicative of physical fitness.
Maybe we should define "fit" (I can't believe you are still up to this you goofball you )
According to Webster’s Dictionary; Fit^2 Adjective; #3 definition is "3: sound physically and mentally: healthy" Sooooo....let's define "healthy" (Adjective) #1:"enjoying health and vigor of body, mind, or spirit : well"
According to these definitions; it seems to me that being "fit" and being "healthy" could be up to interpretation which is possibly why (I’m being sarcastic now) this is a limitless argument.
If one is healthy "Enjoying health and vigor of body, mind or spirit" then would they be considered to be "fit" as well? Everyone is going to have a different point of view on whether someone is fit or not.......bottom line is this, as long as you are healthy (refer to definition above) and happy, then does it really matter what other people think of you?
BMI charts by themselves are useless. If you put in height and weight of Arnold Schwarzenegger, it would tell you that he is morbidly obese. I think we all know that is not the case. Muscle happens to be more dense - and therefore weighs more - than fat.
BMI charts by themselves are useless. If you put in height and weight of Arnold Schwarzenegger, it would tell you that he is morbidly obese. I think we all know that is not the case. Muscle happens to be more dense - and therefore weighs more - than fat.
Exactly. This is why I think its more important to rate ones fitness level like we used to do in Middle School. I remember that whoever scored within a certain category/level got to wear Gold shorts in PE instead of the school standard blue.
I cant remember exactly what it was, but I think the test consisted of:
One mile run.
Number of pullups in one minute.
Number of pushups in one minute.
Long Jump
Rope/Poll climb
I remember there were several kids (7th-9th grade) who ran a six minute mile. I was one of them and was soooo happy that I won the right to wear the Gold Shorts. I wish there was some way we as adults would be required to do this and receive some kind of reward for being in shape like huge write off on State/Fed taxes or discount on health insurance or something similar.
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