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Old 11-25-2020, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Florida
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We live on the Gulf Coast of Florida. My oldest son is gay. There is a thriving gay community in our area. He has never been harassed. I have never heard anyone use the "N" word who didn't receive a tongue lashing from me. This is 2020, not 1950. I have a feeling you living in this area "once upon a time" was a very long time ago.

Now to the OP who never bothered to return: I don't picture a super warm reception as a gay person in Alaska. I only say that because of what little I know about the area. It seems to have a lot of macho type men who like to go hunting regularly. That's probably a media stereotype but it's not someplace I would move to if I was gay. I would move to a large city like NYJ, Boston, Atlanta, San Francisco, etc. would I know I would be accepted instead of having to wonder about it.
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Old 11-25-2020, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Interior Alaska
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We live on the Gulf Coast of Florida. My oldest son is gay. There is a thriving gay community in our area. He has never been harassed. I have never heard anyone use the "N" word who didn't receive a tongue lashing from me. This is 2020, not 1950. I have a feeling you living in this area "once upon a time" was a very long time ago.

Now to the OP who never bothered to return: I don't picture a super warm reception as a gay person in Alaska. I only say that because of what little I know about the area. It seems to have a lot of macho type men who like to go hunting regularly. That's probably a media stereotype but it's not someplace I would move to if I was gay. I would move to a large city like NYJ, Boston, Atlanta, San Francisco, etc. would I know I would be accepted instead of having to wonder about it.
Not really - it was 10 years ago. But I am really glad to hear that your son has never been harassed.

Regarding your comments about Alaska - it seems like you've never been here, and you are definitely stereotyping. Gay people don't have to live in metropolitan cities. They like and are happy living in the boonies, too.
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Old 11-25-2020, 12:09 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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Now to the OP who never bothered to return: I don't picture a super warm reception as a gay person in Alaska. I only say that because of what little I know about the area. It seems to have a lot of macho type men who like to go hunting regularly. That's probably a media stereotype but it's not someplace I would move to if I was gay. I would move to a large city like NYJ, Boston, Atlanta, San Francisco, etc. would I know I would be accepted instead of having to wonder about it.


Looks like stereotyping is alive and well and not restricted to dumb media portrayals. The little bush town of 430 souls I used to live in had at least 3 married gay couples. Everyone knew because everyone was invited to the weddings. The sort of place where open invitations were tacked up on the public bulletin boards at the local hang outs...post office, grocery store, and gas station. In the places I've lived up here anyway if you are a friendly, trustworthy piece of the local fabric you're good. As for those married couples...they all met their partners while living there.
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Old 11-25-2020, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Interior Alaska
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Looks like stereotyping is alive and well and not restricted to dumb media portrayals. The little bush town of 430 souls I used to live in had at least 3 married gay couples. Everyone knew because everyone was invited to the weddings. The sort of place where open invitations were tacked up on the public bulletin boards at the local hang outs...post office, grocery store, and gas station. In the places I've lived up here anyway if you are a friendly, trustworthy piece of the local fabric you're good. As for those married couples...they all met their partners while living there.
Cheering for this from Fairbanks! +10, if I could rep you!
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Old 11-25-2020, 04:39 PM
 
Location: my mommy
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Just don't mention being gay, if you want to avoid weird stares.

I'm an LGBT person from Iowa as well. Iowa, Missouri (outside of KC and SL), and Alaska are probably three of the worst places you could possibly be as an LGBT people in not just the US, but the whole Western world.

If you want to experience true equality and acceptance you got to get your butt to a big city in a blue state. Not only were you born in the wrong place, you keep moving to the wrong places!
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Old 11-25-2020, 05:53 PM
 
Location: interior Alaska
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Now to the OP who never bothered to return: I don't picture a super warm reception as a gay person in Alaska. I only say that because of what little I know about the area. It seems to have a lot of macho type men who like to go hunting regularly. That's probably a media stereotype but it's not someplace I would move to if I was gay.
Sure, there are lots of rugged outdoorspeople here. And some of them are gay. It's not as though being in a relationship with someone of the same gender makes you incapable of shooting a moose.

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Looks like stereotyping is alive and well and not restricted to dumb media portrayals. The little bush town of 430 souls I used to live in had at least 3 married gay couples. Everyone knew because everyone was invited to the weddings. The sort of place where open invitations were tacked up on the public bulletin boards at the local hang outs...post office, grocery store, and gas station. In the places I've lived up here anyway if you are a friendly, trustworthy piece of the local fabric you're good. As for those married couples...they all met their partners while living there.
Yeah, similar story here, I live in a small community but I can think of several same-sex households off the top of my head, and one couple where one of the pair is transgender. I'm sure they face their challenges, but they're part of the local community just like anyone else.

You have to remember that while Alaska is a "red state," the dominant form of conservatism here isn't the religious right, it's people who really love guns and oil. And that affection is not limited to any particular orientation or gender identity, haha.

Alaska as a state isn't super progressive about LGBT issues but I think it's been somewhat ahead of the national curve in terms of extending family-related legal rights (e.g. adoption, custody, inheritance) and public sector employment benefits (e.g. insurance coverage) to same-sex couples in line with what other couples have.
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Old 11-25-2020, 05:59 PM
 
Location: interior Alaska
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Iowa, Missouri (outside of KC and SL), and Alaska are probably three of the worst places you could possibly be as an LGBT people in not just the US, but the whole Western world.
Why is Alaska included on this hyperbolic list?
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Old 11-25-2020, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Interior Alaska
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I'm getting the feeling that Alaska would challenge a lot of people's ideas about "what gay people look like."

I am here to tell those people that a gay person might look like a redneck in a beat-ass old Ford, or they might look like your brother or your sister, your mother or your cousin.

Gay people are Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians and Green Party members.

They are loggers, miners, equipment operators, doctors, truck drivers, administrators, clerks, nurses, lawyers, gunsmiths and homeless folks.

Gay people like camping, dog mushing, dancing, yoga, riding dirt bikes and four wheelers, cooking, shooting guns, hunting, and the same damn stuff that straight people like doing.

I'm not sure what is so hard about this or why anyone gives one single **** who anyone else loves.
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Old 11-26-2020, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Looks like stereotyping is alive and well and not restricted to dumb media portrayals. The little bush town of 430 souls I used to live in had at least 3 married gay couples. Everyone knew because everyone was invited to the weddings. The sort of place where open invitations were tacked up on the public bulletin boards at the local hang outs...post office, grocery store, and gas station. In the places I've lived up here anyway if you are a friendly, trustworthy piece of the local fabric you're good. As for those married couples...they all met their partners while living there.
Well I did admit I was ignorant on the area and that I'm sure it was a media stereotype. Good to hear that gay people can live just about anywhere without harassment these days. I still think of Matthew Shepard who was killed up in Wyoming or Montana simply because he was gay. I know that was a long time ago but it sticks in my mind when I think about a gay person living in a small town.
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Old 11-26-2020, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I've lived in Alaska twice it was with the Air Force, otherwise I'd never have been there. It's also a long time ago. It is a beautiful state though.

My view is things have changed from when I was young concerning gay people. Things still have a way to go. There are bigots now as when I was young. I can understand the OPs concerns.

So my thoughts are. If the OP wants to move to Fairbanks then I say go. If people give you trouble, then let them move. The Hell with them.

The US is for everyone. These regional cultures of Red and Blue states needs to go and fast. No American should have to worry about, can they move here or there because of who they are. We will be in 2021 in a few weeks. Enough is Enough.

You live where you want. Though I have to admit I wouldn't pick Alaska. I'm retired though I couldn't take that cold again. I will also say that Alaska is probably more open minded than where I retired. Central Florida which is about as Red Trump country as you can get.

Good Luck with your decision
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