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Old 07-28-2020, 01:32 AM
 
Location: interior Alaska
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I don't want a kid to grow up hungry, or worse. But parents need to pay a price for bringing kids into the world that they have no way of feeding themselves. If they expect taxpayers to provide funding, then after some period of time, they need to get "snipped", to avoid bringing a 2nd (or 3rd or 4th) kid into play they cannot afford. We could call the program "Wheat for Nuts" or something. No cost. Please step up onto the table, don't forget to remind the nurse to give you an ice pack on the way out.
Thank you for gracing us with your very important Chicagoan opinion.
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Old 07-28-2020, 02:53 AM
 
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I don't want a kid to grow up hungry, or worse. But parents need to pay a price for bringing kids into the world that they have no way of feeding themselves. If they expect taxpayers to provide funding, then after some period of time, they need to get "snipped", to avoid bringing a 2nd (or 3rd or 4th) kid into play they cannot afford. We could call the program "Wheat for Nuts" or something. No cost. Please step up onto the table, don't forget to remind the nurse to give you an ice pack on the way out.
Sometimes life happens.
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Old 07-28-2020, 09:27 AM
 
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Some things are universal, geography isn't really applicable - like personal responsibility. Alaskans have a reputation for being "rugged individualists who value privacy and self reliance". Walk the walk and quit expecting others to pay for your mistakes, a five minute snip job isn't too much to ask for eighteen years of feeding your mistake. Chicago is a screwed-up socialist spithole largely because so many people don't carry their own weight, don't let Alaska become Illinois.

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Old 07-28-2020, 03:42 PM
 
Location: interior Alaska
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Some things are universal, geography isn't really applicable - like personal responsibility. Alaskans have a reputation for being "rugged individualists who value privacy and self reliance". Walk the walk and quit expecting others to pay for your mistakes, a five minute snip job isn't too much to ask for eighteen years of feeding your mistake. Chicago is a screwed-up socialist spithole largely because so many people don't carry their own weight, don't let Alaska become Illinois.

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Thank you for gracing us once more with another very important Chicagoan opinion.
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Old 07-30-2020, 02:57 PM
 
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No, no, no, thank YOU for allowing me to post in your forum. It's a great honor to be speaking to Lech himself.
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Old 07-30-2020, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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Some things are universal, geography isn't really applicable - like personal responsibility. Alaskans have a reputation for being "rugged individualists who value privacy and self reliance". Walk the walk and quit expecting others to pay for your mistakes, a five minute snip job isn't too much to ask for eighteen years of feeding your mistake. Chicago is a screwed-up socialist spithole largely because so many people don't carry their own weight, don't let Alaska become Illinois.

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Not trying to argue with anybody in this forum, but it's true that parents should be responsible for their children's upbringing in all respects. The problem is that nowadays lost of parents don't even think about such responsibilities, simply because they didn't learn them from their parents and other relatives from childhood. Also, for whatever reason (s) some are single, or very poor, or just don't care about such things. There are homes where the parent (s) have passed down to the TV and other screens (computers, phones, tablets, etc.), plus governments, the responsibilities for their children's upbringing. Then there are those parents who are nothing but abusive toward their family members.
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Old 07-30-2020, 03:55 PM
 
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Some things are universal, geography isn't really applicable - like personal responsibility. Alaskans have a reputation for being "rugged individualists who value privacy and self reliance". Walk the walk and quit expecting others to pay for your mistakes, a five minute snip job isn't too much to ask for eighteen years of feeding your mistake. Chicago is a screwed-up socialist spithole largely because so many people don't carry their own weight, don't let Alaska become Illinois.

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Kids can't help it if their parents are irresponsible. Once they're here, the best option is to make sure they have the basics so they have an opportunity to be responsible adults themselves.

Once upon a time children were responsible for their parents' debts, and could be jailed if their parents died in debt. We don't do that here, because kids aren't responsible for their parents. Would you like to spend time in jail because your parents owed money? Same principal with food, clothing, shelter, and education.
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Old 07-30-2020, 05:01 PM
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Location: MA/NH
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What is it with schools being responsible for feeding people's children?

If you can't feed 'em, don't breed 'em.
Ditto!!

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I've lived in NY, MA and now NH, and I agree with NORTY FLATZ. As a 61 year old childfree homeowner with high property taxes... when can I start investing in myself?? I would think that by the age of 45 and never having had children, my debt to society for my public education should have been paid off... and if I didn't have to support public education, I'd be able to save and not worry about retiring on just SS checks. As it is, I will probably continue working until the end of my life. So if I have to make sacrifices, so should all of these parents. They need to work a lot harder to support and feed their progeny!!!

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I don't want a kid to grow up hungry, or worse. But parents need to pay a price for bringing kids into the world that they have no way of feeding themselves. If they expect taxpayers to provide funding, then after some period of time, they need to get "snipped", to avoid bringing a 2nd (or 3rd or 4th) kid into play they cannot afford. We could call the program "Wheat for Nuts" or something. No cost. Please step up onto the table, don't forget to remind the nurse to give you an ice pack on the way out.
Agree completely!!! Parents should pay more in taxes as a reflection that they are using more of the infrastructure than those who chose a childfree existence. And no, I never asked anyone to have babies. The planet is overrun with human beings as it is. I have no problems if our population were to shrink.
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Old 07-30-2020, 10:01 PM
 
Location: interior Alaska
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I've lived in NY, MA and now NH, and I agree with NORTY FLATZ.
Wow, New York, Massachusetts AND New Hampshire? Then your opinion on how things ought to be done in Fairbanks, Alaska is EXTRA important!
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Old 07-31-2020, 11:48 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Disclaimer...I live in NJ. I enjoy reading this forum.

The other posters are right, some things are universal and one of those universal things is that we dont let our most vulnerable members of our society be neglected through no fault of their own. Children are innocent of the potentially poor mistakes of their parents. And big picture here, these children are our future, good bad or indifferent. Not caring for them affects all of us.


And also quit whining about paying property taxes if you dont have children. Some people dont have cars but they still pay for roads. Some people dont agree with laws but they still have to pay for the police. Some people have never had a house fire but they still pay for firemen. You paying for the education of children not your own is your insurance investment into the future of our country and our planet.
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