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Old 05-26-2011, 09:01 PM
 
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I think people are playing with semantics here. What I think the poster was referring to was someone who obviously did exhibit what we tend to think of eurocentric phenotypes in their appearence.

We can all argue that Martin lawrence, Eddie Murphy, Whoopie Goldberg etc etc may have some "indian, white chinese, thai and somoan" in their background--and I say that faceiously, but I think what the person is eluding to is the idea that the "less black" someone appears, the more attractive they are to some people. I'm not saying it's right, but I agree that the idea is somewhat prevelent even within the black community itself.
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Old 05-26-2011, 10:11 PM
 
Location: THE THRONE aka-New York City
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Actually, they were arguing that the attractive black women have some white in them, not that they were biracial, so you didn't do anything to disprove their idiotic theory.


You keep contradicting yourself. First you say that all black Americans are "mutts", then you say that Lisa Raye is 100% black. That makes no sense. Having two parents that identify as black does not make you fully black.
Black people by default are comprised of multi-generational mixing. That is the essence of a "black american". I dont think they were talking about it in that sense. They were talking about women who were directly half black and half white such as halle berry. Furthermore they believe any women whose attractive must be directly mixed as in half black, half other. Which is not the case. Blacks are multi genarational mixed not directly mixed

When i say "black" i mean black american. And yes all blacks are mutts. But not in the same sense as being half black and half white.
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And I'll ask you again, how do you know that none of these women aren't half something else? Are these pictures of your friends?
These women described themselves as being african american.
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We are not mutts by nature but instead because of human actions. Have you ever traveled to Africa?? There are people there with different skin tones just like here. You may not see them in US media. You say people are confusing Black americans with Africans - What is the difference in Black Americans and Africans other than where they live?
There are blacks that can pass for african, and there are africans that can pass for black american. But overall blacks in the US look different from africans born in africa. I live in nyc and im surrounded by africans and overall we're different culturally and visually
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Old 05-26-2011, 10:19 PM
 
Location: America
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That argument doesnt make sense. Black people by default are comprised of multi-generational mixing. That is the essence of a "black american". That reasoning would only make sense if they were talking about africans(as in directly from africa) beauty alone. All black women may have some white in them whether they are attractive or not. I dont think they were talking about it in that sense. They were talking about women who were directly half black and half white such as halle berry. Furthermore they believe any women whose attractive must be directly mixed as in half black, half other. Which is not the case. Blacks are multi genarational mixed not directly mixed

When i say "black" i mean black american. And yes all blacks are mutts. But not in the same sense as being half black and half white.
You can't just make up your own definitions, guy. "Black" means of African descent, not just Americans of Black African descent. Again, Lisa Raye may have two parents who identify has Black, but that does not make her fully black. For someone to be 100% anything means that their genetic makeup is composed of only ONE race.

Not one of those posters arguing mixed black women were beautiful said anything about only biracial women. Ask them if you don't believe me.

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These women described themselves as being african american.
Alicia Keys and Halle Berry call themselves African American. They both have white mothers.

So, for the third time, do you know for a fact that any of the women in those pictures do not have a non-black parent?
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Old 05-26-2011, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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My great grandfather is white who married a black lady who had a biracial son who is my grandfather who married a black woman who had my mother who married a black man. So what does that make me LOL, I see where K.O. is coming from.
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Old 05-26-2011, 10:33 PM
 
Location: America
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My great grandfather is white who married a black lady who had a biracial son who is my grandfather who married a black woman who had my mother who married a black man. So what does that make me LOL, I see where K.O. is coming from.
Here's the deal, the definition of "mixed" doesn't state to what extent you must contain some other race.

The safest way to call it is this: if you can look at a person and tell that they have some other race in them, and that person is aware of what that race is, just consider them mixed.
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Old 05-26-2011, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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Here's the deal, the definition of "mixed" doesn't state to what extent you must contain some other race.

The safest way to call it is this: if you can look at a person and tell that they have some other race in them, and that person is aware of what that race is, just consider them mixed.


I agree
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Old 05-26-2011, 11:13 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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When I think mixed, I think of a person who obviously gets some of their features from some other race than black. I would bet that every single one of those women has atleast one grandparent who is not black.
I grew up with A LOT of Black Creoles here in Los Angeles (whose roots were in Louisiana) so I have a different perspective. You can have generation upon generation of lighter skin Black Creoles intermarrying with each other so that although a person can have two "Black" (Creole) parents the children are light complexioned because both parents and both sets of grandparents are ALL light skinned. These are obviously people of both African and European ancestry but their complexion is not attributed to having one White and one Black parent. An example would be the DeBarge family.
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Old 05-26-2011, 11:27 PM
 
Location: 60630
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I grew up with A LOT of Black Creoles here in Los Angeles (whose roots were in Louisiana) so I have a different perspective. You can have generation upon generation of lighter skin Black Creoles intermarrying with each other so that although a person can have two "Black" (Creole) parents the children are light complexioned because both parents and both sets of grandparents are ALL light skinned. These are obviously people of both African and European ancestry but their complexion is not attributed to having one White and one Black parent. An example would be the DeBarge family.

Theis is my friend. She is black creole. She is light light skinned, could be a tan white person. She has a thin nose and long wavy curly/wavy hair. I thought she was greek when I first met her.
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Old 05-26-2011, 11:32 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Yeah, they're so unattractive and all..........
To me, they are. Too lumpy. I dont like all those muscles with veins showing. Ick. Not my type, black, white or polka-dotted. If they're built that way I dont want them. I like mine nerdy.

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Seriously? I prefer white guys overall, but those guys were hotter than hell!
Then hell for me will be ice cold....I wouldnt look at them twice. Those are the kind of guys that when they approach me, I shoot down cold and pass along to a buddy. Not worth my time or effort.

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Old 05-26-2011, 11:49 PM
 
Location: THE THRONE aka-New York City
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You can't just make up your own definitions, guy. "Black" means of African descent, not just Americans of Black African descent. Again, Lisa Raye may have two parents who identify has Black, but that does not make her fully black. For someone to be 100% anything means that their genetic makeup is composed of only ONE race.

Not one of those posters arguing mixed black women were beautiful said anything about only biracial women. Ask them if you don't believe me.

Alicia Keys and Halle Berry call themselves African American. They both have white mothers.

So, for the third time, do you know for a fact that any of the women in those pictures do not have a non-black parent?
Its not really my definition. The usage of the word black is largely an american construction. Used to define the descendants of slaves here in america. It is, for the most part, a word to describe americans. Thats why you have some caribbeans,hispanics etc that are as dark as night, claiming they are not "black"

I think the problem is we are confusing biracial with mixed
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