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Old 08-26-2013, 07:47 PM
 
Location: State of Superior
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I will answer why there is a resistance to men wearing short shorts with a post I made on the same topic in another thread. I wrote the following about 2 years ago and went back and found it to include it in this thread. Since I first posted it, I've noticed mens' shorts getting a little shorter. Nevertheless, the disdain toward males in short shorts persists, and the following will explain why. Here it is:

I agree that today's shorts for males are rediculously long and baggy, but I am starting to see the return of shorter mens' shorts. However, it will be awhile before upper or mid thigh mens' shorts, if ever, become popular again. I mean no offense to anyone for what I'm about to say, but I see this for several reasons:

1. Short shorts on men are now considered gay by a large section of the population, both male and female alike. This is largely due to a cultural shift that occurred in the mid to late 1980s, where men started covering themselves up as a reaction to the Gay Identity movement at that time. Hip Hop went mainstream at that time, and its long and baggy style became the only way for males, young and old alike, to dress. All clothes for males, especially younger males, from the 1990s on until about 2 years ago, was long and baggy. At the same time, females began showing more and more skin. Go to any beach, and you will now see men wearing big, bulky, and long-tentlike boardshorts and women wearing barely nothing, tie on the side string bikinis. At the same time, if a guy wanted to wear short shorts, it would be very hard because hardly anybody makes them for men anymore, with the exception of running shorts, and even most men now wear those longer, too. The only athletes who were the short shorts now seem to be marathon runners and professional wrestlers.

2. At least one whole generation of people were not alive or were very young when men regularly wore shorter shorts. They are now entering their 20s, and it will take a lot to convince them that this is an okay thing to do. There is a group on Facebook called "Men Can Wear Short Shorts Too" where the members often talk of harrassment by others for wearing short shorts and being men. The harrassment includes having strangers take their picture, rude comments from young men and women alike, and being pointed and laughed at. I once saw an older man wearing short shorts being harassed by several teen boys, one of which kept saying to the man "Why don't you just say that your gay!" and holding his cellphone up as if he was recording the incident.

3. Most heterosexual women these days, young and old, actually prefer to see males in longer shorts. I don't know why that is, but maybe someone can shed some light here, but they act as if the male thigh is a very disgusting thing while not even minding seeing other females nearly naked.

4. Most men value their manhood above just about anything else, and especially, their straight manhood if they are straight. While women have fought for and won, and rightfully so, many of the social acceptance and freedoms that they now have, I believe that a lot of men would feel fighting for some things, like the social acceptance to wear short shorts, will be an affront to their straight-manhoodness.

Now, shorts for males are becoming shorter, right above the knee. I think that if somehow, a young alpha male pop cultural icon goes around in short shorts, then the look has a good chance of coming back. It will be a tough sell, but possible. I think that men should be allowed to wear short shorts if they want to. I know that I would.
You did not go back far enough for the rest of the story. In the 70s there was a fashion statement for Men and it was I think called "hot " pants" I had at lest one pair. The real difference here was this was fashion,.They were worn for dress and the length was mid thigh.Nice sweaters, matching , were all part of the ensemble .Timeline wise, looking back , it must have been 1969-70 as I recall showing up at the apartment of my future second wife., for a date. I don't remember how long this fashion lasted . It was Chicago and in the Fall.

The other part of this has continued untill today, and It's my standard wear all summer., Tommy Bamaha s flowered shirts and pants which stop just above the knee. I live in a layed back resort city, so this is standard wear just about anywhere. Some people call these shorts, but I see them as short pants., very comfortable. , I wonder what others call these, can't be shorts...or maybe they are ?
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Old 08-31-2013, 01:44 AM
 
Location: Phoenix Arizona
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Waxed legs + plus short shorts makes it seem like trying to show off the legs - that is not something a normal man should do.
I'm proud to say that I am certainly not a "normal man". I don't care for sports. I don't hunt animals nor have I ever shot a gun of any kind. I don't spend the weekend watching the ball game on the couch with a beer in one hand and scratching my nuts with the other. I cook stuff other than just meat on a grill. I respect women and help out with domestic chores around the house.

I'm also proud of my legs. I've been told before that I had nice legs so I do tend to show them off. I don't see the difference between me showing off my legs and a chesty woman wearing tight low cut shirts or muscular men wearing tank tops.
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Old 08-31-2013, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, MD
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Your gf likes to think of you as a man, you shouldn't be wearing Richard Simmons-like booty shorts, shes perfectly reasonable in her request. I'm a man and also do all kinds of activity in normal below the knee length shorts. And to be honest, if you were around when the booty shorts were popular for men, its probably not the best sight and she might be breaking it to u in a way she believes is diplomatic.
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Old 08-31-2013, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Your gf likes to think of you as a man, you shouldn't be wearing Richard Simmons-like booty shorts, shes perfectly reasonable in her request. I'm a man and also do all kinds of activity in normal below the knee length shorts. And to be honest, if you were around when the booty shorts were popular for men, its probably not the best sight and she might be breaking it to u in a way she believes is diplomatic.
Kinda hard to think of someone as a man when he wears skorts like grandma used to wear.

SKORT - definition - half skirt, half shorts.
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Old 08-31-2013, 12:53 PM
 
Location: So. of Rosarito, Baja, Mexico
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Mens shorts are OK as long as they are below that of a bathing suit.

What I do not care for is women/girls wearing tight short shorts that are a hair larger then their panties....too much advertising I'm a thinking.
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Old 08-31-2013, 01:58 PM
 
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I'm diggin the middle one. I agree with the mid-calf length shorts looking like clam digger culottes.
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Old 08-31-2013, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I'm diggin the middle one. I agree with the mid-calf length shorts looking like clam digger culottes.
Man, if I have to pick, the first one looks better.
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Old 08-31-2013, 10:16 PM
 
Location: all over the place (figuratively)
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I'm proud to say that I am certainly not a "normal man". I don't care for sports. I don't hunt animals nor have I ever shot a gun of any kind. I don't spend the weekend watching the ball game on the couch with a beer in one hand and scratching my nuts with the other. I cook stuff other than just meat on a grill. I respect women and help out with domestic chores around the house.

I'm also proud of my legs. I've been told before that I had nice legs so I do tend to show them off. I don't see the difference between me showing off my legs and a chesty woman wearing tight low cut shirts or muscular men wearing tank tops.
I generally am against tight low-cut shirts and tank tops and in principle mostly oppose showing off. But this goes beyond philosophy...

Your legs don't look skinny or crooked, but I don't like looking at them and have to defer to female opinion. In this case, your girlfriend's - does she think you have nice legs?
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Old 09-01-2013, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Phoenix Arizona
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I generally am against tight low-cut shirts and tank tops and in principle mostly oppose showing off. But this goes beyond philosophy...

Your legs don't look skinny or crooked, but I don't like looking at them and have to defer to female opinion. In this case, your girlfriend's - does she think you have nice legs?
She has told me that she thinks I do have nice looking legs. They certainly aren't skinny or crooked.

I don't think it's so much a matter of her wanting me to cover up so much as a matter of me just wearing what "normal" guys would wear I guess. Bottom line is that I just don't feel as comfortable in longer shorts that go past my knee as I do with those above my knee. I may as well be wearing pants in my opinion. It's really not as big of an issue as it may appear in my original post. It was just a suggestion from her really.
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Old 09-01-2013, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Waxed legs + plus short shorts makes it seem like trying to show off the legs - that is not something a normal man should do.
Why, men have legs too, why shouldn't they if they want to? Societal conditioning has made you think only ladies should show off their gams...
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