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Old 11-14-2013, 05:06 PM
 
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Have you ever seen the waist sizes of many '40s, '50s, '60s actresses? Thin has been "in" for decades now. There's a much smaller faction of women who go for the curvy, womanly look (à la Marilyn Monroe, Kim K, Beyonce, Christina Hendricks), especially as teens.

I'm not sure why that is. Maybe because curvy and feminine lays closer to the fine line that, when crossed, means you're just fat? I have an hourglass figure - small waist, huge bust and rockin' hips - and I'll be the first person to tell you that it's hard work to maintain. Also, I've noticed that a lot of women (again, especially as teens) don't naturally have well-defined waists, regardless of if they're thin or not. So, maybe the skinny look is just easier than the curvaceous one.
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Old 11-14-2013, 06:57 PM
 
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I'm not sure why that is. Maybe because curvy and feminine lays closer to the fine line that, when crossed, means you're just fat? I have an hourglass figure - small waist, huge bust and rockin' hips - and I'll be the first person to tell you that it's hard work to maintain. Also, I've noticed that a lot of women (again, especially as teens) don't naturally have well-defined waists, regardless of if they're thin or not. So, maybe the skinny look is just easier than the curvaceous one.
Perhaps. You can't fabricate "curvy" if you aren't predisposed to it. You also can't fabricate a thigh gap if our body doesn't support it.
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Old 11-14-2013, 07:26 PM
 
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Have you ever seen the waist sizes of many '40s, '50s, '60s actresses? Thin has been "in" for decades now. There's a much smaller faction of women who go for the curvy, womanly look (à la Marilyn Monroe, Kim K, Beyonce, Christina Hendricks), especially as teens.

I'm not sure why that is. Maybe because curvy and feminine lays closer to the fine line that, when crossed, means you're just fat? I have an hourglass figure - small waist, huge bust and rockin' hips - and I'll be the first person to tell you that it's hard work to maintain. Also, I've noticed that a lot of women (again, especially as teens) don't naturally have well-defined waists, regardless of if they're thin or not. So, maybe the skinny look is just easier than the curvaceous one.
I think part of it may be due to the obsession with youth. Young women are oftentimes thin and don't have a very 'womanly' body, but as a woman gets older she often will develop breasts and hips and a little bit more padding. This signifies being older and therefore less sexually attractive. I know that I got quite a bit of male attention when I was underweight and had a very boyish figure, but as soon as I had hips and boobs I've been virtually ignored. Part of this could be, of course, because I grew up on the coast of CA and where I was living, college girls and high school girls were the ones being 'chased'.
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Old 11-14-2013, 07:45 PM
 
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I think part of it may be due to the obsession with youth. Young women are oftentimes thin and don't have a very 'womanly' body, but as a woman gets older she often will develop breasts and hips and a little bit more padding. This signifies being older and therefore less sexually attractive. I know that I got quite a bit of male attention when I was underweight and had a very boyish figure, but as soon as I had hips and boobs I've been virtually ignored. Part of this could be, of course, because I grew up on the coast of CA and where I was living, college girls and high school girls were the ones being 'chased'.
I'm not entirely sure that I believe that.

I'm only 20 and have had this body since my freshman year of high school. There were always a handful of other girls who had the hourglass or were hippy/busty back then, too. Plus, the reason that shape is biologically considered attractive is because it's indicative of high fertility, which is a youthful trait.

But you're right, it's not super common in young women. It seems like childbirth is what gives most women hips and a larger chest. I consider myself extremely lucky for just being genetically predisposed to it.
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Old 11-15-2013, 12:30 AM
 
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I'm not entirely sure that I believe that.

I'm only 20 and have had this body since my freshman year of high school. There were always a handful of other girls who had the hourglass or were hippy/busty back then, too. Plus, the reason that shape is biologically considered attractive is because it's indicative of high fertility, which is a youthful trait.

But you're right, it's not super common in young women. It seems like childbirth is what gives most women hips and a larger chest. I consider myself extremely lucky for just being genetically predisposed to it.
I can really only go with my own experiences in this case. The women with boobs/curves/butts etc. were generally wanted sexually by the men I was around, but not for any sort of long term relationship. We were considered hook up material, not the type of woman to be taken home to meet the parents...that was reserved for the relatively thin women with less of a pronounced figure.

I've had both bodies (the thin, relatively shapeless body and the curvy/hourglass body) and definitely noticed a big difference in the way I was treated and perceived by others. I mean, having a curvy body is great and all but who do you think is going to be taken more seriously? A woman who looks like Kim Kardashian or a woman who looks like Gwynth Paltrow (just on looks)?
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Old 11-15-2013, 09:34 AM
 
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I can really only go with my own experiences in this case. The women with boobs/curves/butts etc. were generally wanted sexually by the men I was around, but not for any sort of long term relationship. We were considered hook up material, not the type of woman to be taken home to meet the parents...that was reserved for the relatively thin women with less of a pronounced figure.

I've had both bodies (the thin, relatively shapeless body and the curvy/hourglass body) and definitely noticed a big difference in the way I was treated and perceived by others. I mean, having a curvy body is great and all but who do you think is going to be taken more seriously? A woman who looks like Kim Kardashian or a woman who looks like Gwynth Paltrow (just on looks)?
I totally agree! I also found this interesting article awhile back:

Sexist Men Like Big Boobs? Male Attitudes May Predict Breast Size Preference, Says Study

...that kinda states the obvious, but I still find incredibly accurate based on my experiences and the experiences of friends shaped like me.
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Old 11-15-2013, 11:50 AM
 
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I've always been naturally skinny as a rail, so I've got nerve but....

IMO, it has more to do with today's American men-children (you know--the ones who spend all day even into their 30s perched on the computer, playing games, with a slice of pizza and Diet Coke next to them) wanting women who look like young girls, especially given the current propensity for "no hair anywhere but on the head" if you know what I mean.

The impression I'm getting is that a lot of these men-children wouldn't know what to do with a woman.
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Old 11-15-2013, 02:09 PM
 
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I totally agree! I also found this interesting article awhile back:

Sexist Men Like Big Boobs? Male Attitudes May Predict Breast Size Preference, Says Study

...that kinda states the obvious, but I still find incredibly accurate based on my experiences and the experiences of friends shaped like me.
I think so too. But I also thing that I am perceived even differently based on both bra size and ethnicity. Not all women are considered "marriage" material.
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Old 11-15-2013, 02:36 PM
 
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But the thigh gap isn't really about having big hips, it's about being able to see daylight between your thighs when you're standing with your legs together.
Seriously...it's hard to find hips wider than mine, and no thigh gap, here, never in my life, not at any weight. Wide hips do not = thigh gap. Very thin thighs do, though. Not in the pear-shaped genes, here, and that's a-ok.
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Old 11-15-2013, 05:14 PM
 
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I can really only go with my own experiences in this case. The women with boobs/curves/butts etc. were generally wanted sexually by the men I was around, but not for any sort of long term relationship. We were considered hook up material, not the type of woman to be taken home to meet the parents...that was reserved for the relatively thin women with less of a pronounced figure.

I've had both bodies (the thin, relatively shapeless body and the curvy/hourglass body) and definitely noticed a big difference in the way I was treated and perceived by others. I mean, having a curvy body is great and all but who do you think is going to be taken more seriously? A woman who looks like Kim Kardashian or a woman who looks like Gwynth Paltrow (just on looks)?
That's very true. Pronounced curves can scream sex appeal, whether you want to or not, and that's then equated to someone less 'classy', and viewed as a sex object. While thinness is associated with sophistication, elegance, ethereality, grace - think ballerinas or runway models, they're almost considered 'above' primitive sex functions, as opposed to say, fuller-figured men's-magazine models. It's also been shown that more working-class men tend to prefer fuller-figured partners, while more upper-class men chose thinner women with little curves.
I'm actually in a funny position because I'm very pear-shaped, meaning that on top I'm extremely small, flat-chested and narrow-shouldered, with thin arms, collarbones, etc. And I like that part of my body the best. However, on the bottom it's like another person - full-on Beyonce bazoonga hips and thick thighs, and my legs always look 'heavy' even when I'm underweight. I do find it attracts male attention, especially if I wear something like a pencil skirt, but definitely not 'good' attention - more like stares and catcalls from construction workers. I actually found I got checked out a lot more when I was 15 lbs heavier and with a larger backside and hips, than I do now that I'm a bit smaller and thinner, but to me that's a good thing.

Personally, as a woman, I definitely see the appeal of that ethereal ballerina thinness, it appeals to me on a purely aesthetic level. However, I also realize realistically that for the majority of women, myself included, it's simply not realistic to get that body if you didn't get it genetically.
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