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Old 11-20-2013, 05:28 PM
 
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Thanks for using someone's opinion, now allow me to fulfill my promise and lay waste to your arguement with numbers and ACTUAL STATISTICS.


"Researchers at the London School of Economics studied 52,000 people in the U.K. and U.S., and their results were conclusive: Attractive men have IQs 13.6 points above average, while attractive women score 11.4 points higher."


I could post enough evidence to take up another 6 pages of thread. Like I said you spew out false information on how the world works. Not to be offensive but your part of the problem. Sweeping problems under rug doesn't mean its going to go away.


Now go beat him up, please.


Sorry Veyron.

You gon be ugly again. LOL!!!



I do admit, he does come off aggressive in his wording in some cases.

I do find this to be an interesting topic. I do believe (and have seen) that looks do play a factor. But one thing I also realize is the subjectivity of beauty (when people are truly honest with themselves). A lot of what we find attractive is greatly influenced by the media.

I myself admit, even I react to the people I'm more attracted to (internally). I try not to show preference, but I don't know if I actually have or not. I'd like to think I treated everyone equally.

We just have similar experiences.

It is more like the extent that we have seen of behavioral differences as it relates to people of varying levels of perceived attractiveness that makes us notice, especially when it is the same person.


I have read about a lot of theories about issues like this.


But Oh eve, Ro2113, Prince Frog, non-creep, others I personally appreciate your contributions to this thread.

Big Thanks to Veyron for starting this thread.
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Old 11-20-2013, 05:30 PM
 
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I think it's harsh to blame people for the way they are. A lifetime of torment, exclusion and rejection takes a lot to overcome.
And some people never overcome it.

All we can do is be compassionate...

...At the same time, do not let anyone take advantage of you.
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Old 11-20-2013, 05:36 PM
 
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This thread is funny to me. Unless you are auditioning for Wonder Woman in Hollywood, your looks dont matter much outside of Hollywood, modelling etc.

In real life, people get by because they either can contribute something to a company eg skills, degree qualifications etc. And in real life PERSONALITY is everything!

Outside of Hollywood, everyone is attractive to some one else!
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Old 11-20-2013, 05:37 PM
 
Location: southern california
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yes pretty people get the prize. work to improve yourself. helen rubenstein says there are no ugly women only lazy ones.
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Old 11-20-2013, 05:37 PM
 
Location: SoCal again
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I have been ugly until I was 16 and started to become womanly and didn't have to wear my older sisters worn clothes anymore, with bears sewn to it, ugh.. I got a real hair cut. I took off my glasses and wore contacts. I walked upright and with pride instead of trying to hide my almost 6ft of insecurity. It made such a difference. The guys who laughed about me before suddenly wanted to date me and I laughed into their faces.

But why keep holding a grudge forever? Get over yourself and make the best possible out of you.

I think alot can be achieved by the way you carry yourself, how you dress, put some effort in your appearance, get rid of acne, etc. etc. Nobody who takes care of him/herself is really ugly. If you let yourself go and become a bitter person like Veyron shows me in every post, plus attacking people - of course nobody likes you or wants to hire you.

You holding a grudge to everybody just makes you internally ugly, which in turn displays on the outside as well. Nobody wants to be around a complainer.

Now I am really out, time to wake up and go home.
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Old 11-20-2013, 05:39 PM
 
Location: SoCal again
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yes pretty people get the prize. work to improve yourself. helen rubenstein says there are no ugly women only lazy ones.

so TRUE!!!
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Old 11-20-2013, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Utica, NY
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And some people never overcome it.

All we can do is be compassionate...

...At the same time, do not let anyone take advantage of you.
The easy thing for people to do is dismiss it or put the blame on the victim. In some cases tough love works, but in other cases it may even exacerbate the problem and force the individual even further into their shell. It doesn't help that the creepy thing is banded around way too often. That will just about kill any shot of confidence that an unattractive person may have had.

My views may be extreme, but I honesty feel that cosmetic surgery should be free for those who need it and those who are really psychologically damaged by years of torment should have the right to die. It is that extreme for people:

Too ugly for this world. | the suicide project - suicide stories

I want to kill myself because I'm ugly.

Face is deformed, people stare, i'm broke. Can't handle it. : SuicideWatch

I hope that you take the time to read the links I provided. It is sad that people have to endure such cruelty so a little sympathy rather than the bootstrap type stuff wouldn't go amiss.
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Old 11-20-2013, 05:59 PM
 
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The easy thing for people to do is dismiss it or put the blame on the victim. In some cases tough love works, but in other cases it may even exacerbate the problem and force the individual even further into their shell. It doesn't help that the creepy thing is banded around way too often. That will just about kill any shot of confidence that an unattractive person may have had.

My views may be extreme, but I honesty feel that cosmetic surgery should be free for those who need it and those who are really psychologically damaged by years of torment should have the right to die. It is that extreme for people:

Too ugly for this world. | the suicide project - suicide stories

I want to kill myself because I'm ugly.

Face is deformed, people stare, i'm broke. Can't handle it. : SuicideWatch

I hope that you take the time to read the links I provided. It is sad that people have to endure such cruelty so a little sympathy rather than the bootstrap type stuff wouldn't go amiss.
I've had both of the bolded happen.

But I have read through these links and wow. These are sad. World can be extremely cruel in many different ways. Some people come out of it permanently damaged. I didn't expect to overcome what I went through, but I seem to be coming along.

I still expect my former life, even though a lot has changed.

I do sadly agree with what you say about the psychologically damaged. I'd rather kill myself than someone else. Some people are so psychologically damaged to the point of being deadly. Again, this is not their own fault, I put blame on the tormentors. You also never know what the trigger is. (At least in my case).

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Old 11-20-2013, 06:05 PM
 
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I have been ugly until I was 16 and started to become womanly and didn't have to wear my older sisters worn clothes anymore, with bears sewn to it, ugh.. I got a real hair cut. I took off my glasses and wore contacts. I walked upright and with pride instead of trying to hide my almost 6ft of insecurity. It made such a difference. The guys who laughed about me before suddenly wanted to date me and I laughed into their faces.

But why keep holding a grudge forever? Get over yourself and make the best possible out of you.

I think alot can be achieved by the way you carry yourself, how you dress, put some effort in your appearance, get rid of acne, etc. etc. Nobody who takes care of him/herself is really ugly. If you let yourself go and become a bitter person like Veyron shows me in every post, plus attacking people - of course nobody likes you or wants to hire you.

You holding a grudge to everybody just makes you internally ugly, which in turn displays on the outside as well. Nobody wants to be around a complainer.

Now I am really out, time to wake up and go home.
I got to get back to work, myself.

BTW, I'm not holding any kind of grudge. I hope you are not reading that into any of my posts. I'm just intrigued by the topic and sharing my experiences. As a matter of fact, I kinda find it amusing... having an idea of the kind of control I have over my situation.

A lot of the people who suddenly started warming up to me got a bewildered "hi" at worst.

Now be safe.

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Old 11-20-2013, 07:07 PM
 
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This thread is funny to me. Unless you are auditioning for Wonder Woman in Hollywood, your looks dont matter much outside of Hollywood, modelling etc.

In real life, people get by because they either can contribute something to a company eg skills, degree qualifications etc. And in real life PERSONALITY is everything!

Outside of Hollywood, everyone is attractive to some one else!
Are you 12?
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