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I feel sorry for obese people. I don't think they should be ridiculed or discriminated against.
However, the US has become a very fat country. Obesity leads to so many diseases and infirmities. I'm not about to celebrate obesity.
There were not so many very heavy people when I was growing up. Maybe it's somewhat due to a genetic predisposition, however genetics could not have changed drastically in the past 25 years.
Portions are huge. Fast food that's cheap. And people who are sedentary and eat too much.
I feel sorry for obese people. I don't think they should be ridiculed or discriminated against.
However, the US has become a very fat country. Obesity leads to so many diseases and infirmities. I'm not about to celebrate obesity.
There were not so many very heavy people when I was growing up. Maybe it's somewhat due to a genetic predisposition, however genetics could not have changed drastically in the past 25 years.
Portions are huge. Fast food that's cheap. And people who are sedentary and eat too much.
That's the problem.
So I don't celebrate obesity. No.
Fast food.
Chemicals in food
"Low fat" food.
Sugar. In. Everything.
Maybe it's somewhat due to a genetic predisposition, however genetics could not have changed drastically in the past 25 years.
so many people want to believe that some people are just genetically predisposed to being fat or thin. its bs. you get fat because you stuff your mouth with too much food. the % of people that are overweight due to medical conditions is small enough to not be worth mentioning.
im not going to be mean to anybody but I certainly don't feel sorry for ziggy piggys. they made the choice to keep eating, they chose to be fat.
I feel sorry for obese people. I don't think they should be ridiculed or discriminated against.
However, the US has become a very fat country. Obesity leads to so many diseases and infirmities. I'm not about to celebrate obesity.
There were not so many very heavy people when I was growing up. Maybe it's somewhat due to a genetic predisposition, however genetics could not have changed drastically in the past 25 years.
Portions are huge. Fast food that's cheap. And people who are sedentary and eat too much.
That's the problem.
So I don't celebrate obesity. No.
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Originally Posted by artemis agrotera
Fast food.
Chemicals in food
"Low fat" food.
Sugar. In. Everything.
These are American problems, not "fat people" problems. Last I checked, the "crappy food" and "low activity" lifestyle is pretty common around the country. Instead of demonizing people, isn't it more helpful to encourage all Americans (or people), no matter what they weigh, to be healthy? This sets up a false dichotomy.
"Well I am size 4, so I am healthy even though I smoke 10 cigarettes a day and eat McDs for 3 meals a day. That chubby girl over there running a half marathon isn't healthy because she is over size 10."
Exactly. It's 'because I don't want to bang you, I should be able to treat you as less of a person'.
Just because I don't find someone attractive doesn't mean I'm going to be mean to them or treat them badly.
And I think I've mentioned it in this thread (and others, I'm sure), but once I started feeling better about myself and more confident in myself regardless of my size, I started putting MORE effort into working out and losing weight. The worse people treated me, the more I wanted to hide and not go to the gym and not go running/jogging and the more weight I gained as a result. The guy who moo'd at me while walking didn't motivate me to lose weight, it made me feel horrible and like I should hide because my mere presence was obviously offending people.
Seriously, just moments ago my friend was making comments about this obese guy eating pizza and asked me something along the lines of "Do you ever wonder how such people just accept their body shape". This guy was in the table next to us. I just told her to stop commenting and said "Simple, I refuse to look if I dont like it". If you feel negative about somebody, then just keep it to yourself and dont let others hear it. Nobody wants to know, and it would be mentally distressing if such information is revealed by an outsider. I never knew a good friend of mine would develop such thoughts. I hope she realizes her mistake and does not do it again. Have your friends ever shocked you in such a way.
Plus size and morbidly obese are not the same thing. If you are a woman and wear a size larger than a 12 (ten, by some definitions) you are plus size. But morbid obesity and/or weight-related health problems are not necessarily a part and parcel of this. A woman who is six feet tall and wears size 16 jeans is not likely to be battling the health concerns of morbid obesity.
I also think there's a difference between being plus size and being extremely obese. Come on.
I think my favorite type of women are those plus size models who wear 12,14,16.
Love em especially if they're tall too
Re: fat acceptance :
I'm all for being kinder to people and for avoiding making fun of people but movements like fat acceptance go too far when they want to silence any kind of talk that makes them uncomfortable.
It's not "fat shaming!" to say that being 400lb is probably not good for the health. Sure I can accept that this and that particular person is healthy at 400lb but it's ridiculous to then say that all or most 400lb people are healthy.
I think that obesity really affects various people in very different ways.
I watched an episode of Lena Dunham's show Girls the other day and something shocked me.
Unlike a lot of people I don't find her habit of exposing a lot of skin disturbing. What shocked me was the scene where several characters are running in a cemetary. Lena Dunham is maybe 200lb or something but when she ran she looked like someone who weighed 400lb! She looked like her knees would snap at any moment. She didn't look even remotely in shape! She should seriously consider losing weight. She looked almost disabled.
so many people want to believe that some people are just genetically predisposed to being fat or thin. its bs. you get fat because you stuff your mouth with too much food. the % of people that are overweight due to medical conditions is small enough to not be worth mentioning.
im not going to be mean to anybody but I certainly don't feel sorry for ziggy piggys. they made the choice to keep eating, they chose to be fat.
I think we all know that "one person" who appears to eat whatever they want and doesn't gain weight. So there is a metabolism element, but I think in many cases you'd find that they are a lot more active than they appear to be.
I feel sorry for obese people. I don't think they should be ridiculed or discriminated against.
However, the US has become a very fat country. Obesity leads to so many diseases and infirmities. I'm not about to celebrate obesity.
There were not so many very heavy people when I was growing up. Maybe it's somewhat due to a genetic predisposition, however genetics could not have changed drastically in the past 25 years.
Portions are huge. Fast food that's cheap. And people who are sedentary and eat too much.
That's the problem.
So I don't celebrate obesity. No.
Portion control is my biggest problem. I can do reasonably well eating healthier choices, but I still eat TOO MUCH of it. I've become so conditioned to huge portions, I feel cheated and ripped off (not to mention, still hungry) when I eat a normal portion. I've been able to reduce them somewhat, but I can't shake this feeling of "well, I'm not going through the trouble of making XXXX if I can only eat that little bit of it, it's not worth the effort" and eat something ultimately less healthy because of it. This is why I've reached a plateau in my weight loss.
I KNOW it's a poor attitude, but I can't seem to shake it.
Even just losing 40 lbs, the arthritis in my knees has gone from an almost-daily annoyance to something I forget I have most of the time.
I think we all know that "one person" who appears to eat whatever they want and doesn't gain weight. So there is a metabolism element, but I think in many cases you'd find that they are a lot more active than they appear to be.
that one person isn't eating as many total calories as the fat person. the fatties that think they know people that are skinny in spite of the unlimited food they eat, aren't counting all the calories those people are consuming. its less than them. much less.
These are American problems, not "fat people" problems. Last I checked, the "crappy food" and "low activity" lifestyle is pretty common around the country. Instead of demonizing people, isn't it more helpful to encourage all Americans (or people), no matter what they weigh, to be healthy? This sets up a false dichotomy.
"Well I am size 4, so I am healthy even though I smoke 10 cigarettes a day and eat McDs for 3 meals a day. That chubby girl over there running a half marathon isn't healthy because she is over size 10."
That's nonsense.
Absolutely.
Everyone needs to understand what they're eating & the long term affects on their body. Weight is just a part of this.
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