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Old 03-29-2014, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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For me growing up everyone wearing short shorts was the norm. Only difference was girls wore light colored shorts and guys wore dark colored ones. In fact id still rather wear short shorts than those culottes they try to push on us these days. I feel like a clown wearing those things.
Yeah haha...the trend might slowly be changing again, we'll see. Fashion always changes anyway.
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Old 03-29-2014, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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I think most people want the other sex to be as different as possible from one's own. Not better or worse, but simply different. Opposites attract as they say.

Someone said that in nature males are often the more colorful looking ones and females the bland ones. That might be, but we are humans, not animals. Those are cultural values we are talking about. A peacock can't do anything about the way it looks, it is just genes expressing themselves. We, however, can deliberately decide what we want to look like and how we want to come across.

In humans I agree that homophobia has a lot to do with it. It is interesting that many men in fashion and beauty industries are gay. A "feminine" man might be funny in a comedy, but in real life more often than not he is met with pity, mocking, disdain etc.
I don't really buy the whole 'opposites attract' thing...I mean if you consider males and females 'opposite' then yeah, but most people I see together are fairly similar. I think we're more designed to be conditioned - by both biology and society and culture, which could be seen as extension of that, to view certain traits as attractive.

Yeah especially in Anglo societies. From a young age girls are raised to be pretty, like pretty things, while boys like more practical or action stuff.
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Old 03-29-2014, 05:36 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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I don't really buy the whole 'opposites attract' thing...I mean if you consider males and females 'opposite' then yeah, but most people I see together are fairly similar. I think we're more designed to be conditioned - by both biology and society and culture, which could be seen as extension of that, to view certain traits as attractive.

Yeah especially in Anglo societies. From a young age girls are raised to be pretty, like pretty things, while boys like more practical or action stuff.
In other cultures it is even worse, all those countries ending in -stan for instance, Muslim countries...

Similar in what way? Package or content?
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Old 03-29-2014, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Temporarily, in Limerick
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Maybe we all are, I mean in many species that seems the case. If anything males moreso than females.
You're generalizing. I'm female & have never been attracted to another female. Regarding bisexuality... is the issue here that you're trying to come to terms with being bi/gay? If so, do you really need strangers to agree with you in order to come out? Do what you feel is appropriate in your life. Why is that difficult for you?
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Old 03-29-2014, 05:57 PM
 
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You're generalizing. I'm female & have never been attracted to another female. Regarding bisexuality... is the issue here that you're trying to come to terms with being bi/gay? If so, do you really need strangers to agree with you in order to come out? Do what you feel is appropriate in your life. Why is that difficult for you?
Until you have to deal with a gender identity disorder youll never understand it.
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Old 03-29-2014, 06:01 PM
 
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I was just talking to a friend of mine the other day about all of this. We pretty much came to the simple conclusion that women are homophobic and men are gay. By this i mean that women are the ones to say "i want a real man"; Homophobia. Men on the other hand just want to have fun with people who are simply "one of the guys"; gay.
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Old 03-29-2014, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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In other cultures it is even worse, all those countries ending in -stan for instance, Muslim countries...

Similar in what way? Package or content?
Well personality, even looks to a degree (just different genders of course). There's a theory that we're attracted to mates moderately different from us, to offer just enough genetic diversity or something.
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Old 03-29-2014, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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You're generalizing. I'm female & have never been attracted to another female. Regarding bisexuality... is the issue here that you're trying to come to terms with being bi/gay? If so, do you really need strangers to agree with you in order to come out? Do what you feel is appropriate in your life. Why is that difficult for you?
Well maybe we've been conditioned out of it, although I feel the stigma regarding male homosexuality is greater because penetrative sex is seen as more 'real' than female-female sex acts. Either way, I think we're mostly straight but with the potential to be situationally homosexual (e.g. if the OS isn't available and we just need to relieve that drive).

I don't have any issues with my sexuality or gender identity, why does it have to affect me to ask about it? Well wait it does affect all males so it does effect me.
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Old 03-29-2014, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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I was just talking to a friend of mine the other day about all of this. We pretty much came to the simple conclusion that women are homophobic and men are gay. By this i mean that women are the ones to say "i want a real man"; Homophobia. Men on the other hand just want to have fun with people who are simply "one of the guys"; gay.
Interesting way of looking at things...
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Old 03-29-2014, 06:08 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Well personality, even looks to a degree (just different genders of course). There's a theory that we're attracted to mates moderately different from us, to offer just enough genetic diversity or something.
Yes, I have heard of such theories, but for whatever reason a lot of people seem to be exceptions. Including myself, I am white, but I have always been attracted to black women for whatever reason. Judging from all the mixed relationships out there a lot of people seem to feel that way.

But I agree that in terms of character etc. it is probably better to be similar in order to ensure long-term compatibility.
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