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Well, bottom line, it is each individual woman's choice as to how she wants to deal with her breasts larger or small.
As I mentioned previously, I am larger than average in my chest even at my very thinnest; however it is true that they do gain or lose as I gain and lose. For myself, I am not as extreme as some of the women posting in this thread; and having lost some weight and gained back muscle recently has made a big difference for me. I am still large, but happy with the way I look, it is not extreme. There was a time when I thought I needed reduction due to back pain (scioliosis) and posture issues. As I said, weight loss along with strength training and yoga fixed that for me.
If a woman has tried everything and still has major issues, she should go ahead and do what is best for HER, and it doesn't matter what anyone here thinks, especially the men who don't even know her or have any place in her life for pete's sake!
I'm all for people taking personal responsibility for an issue that can be easily remedied by taking simple actions rather then running up the cost of health insurance with claims of pain and discomfort when it is vanity that is the primary concern for most women. Or else suffer irreversible consequence's when they fall prey to the 'echo chamber' of woman who are also so happy they did it. I do also like the fact that my wife is a busty woman and have no reason to be ashamed of that.
I don't think I ever said you should be ashamed of that.
Weight loss is not going to allow a woman to lost the amount of breast tissue/fat that she will need to lose to obtain the size she needs to be rid of the pain.
You have no idea about the pain women go through with such large breast sizes...... maybe your wife doesn't complain because she knows how much you like them.
As a guy, it saddens me. But I understand the reasoning for some women, those things are heavy and mess with your back.
Just don't do it unless you really need it, like they are disproportionally massive to the rest of you. If they are big because you are overweight, lose weight first. Hit the weight room and build a strong core/back. Wear the right size bra. Etc...
Well, bottom line, it is each individual woman's choice as to how she wants to deal with her breasts larger or small.
If a woman has tried everything and still has major issues, she should go ahead and do what is best for HER, and it doesn't matter what anyone here thinks, especially the men who don't even know her or have any place in her life for pete's sake!
It sounds good to say that, but in this world it really isn't a "choice." Women get pressured to meet a beauty ideal from the moment they can stand up. And right now, big natural boobs just aren't in. If you have them, you get picked on teased, told you are fat, ugly, out of proportion, that your back must be killing you and that you look like a ****, a loose woman, or a bimbo. Some people think you cant even be taken seriously because of them and aren't very intelligent if you have them. Just like the actresses who did it to get better roles, that translates (sometimes) into the professional world too. That kind of psychological pressure takes its toll, so choosing to have them reduced because you think its "best for you" is a crock of stuff, IMO. If big natural boobs were the in thing, most women wouldn't have the procedure. They'd put up with the mostly imagined pain and discomfort, like they do for high heel shoes and tight clothing. VS and most department stores would carry (more) larger then DD cup sizes and stop trying to sister size women into bigger bands that offer squat for support. Women would put up with it because they'd have positive reinforcement for having them. It is really sad to hear someone think they look "out of proportion". Sez who? Who decides what someone should look like and why? Every busty woman I have ever known as that one hater friend that follow them around telling them look fat in that outfit, or that men only like them for one thing.
I don't know where every woman's line is for pain and discomfort is. I do know the wrong bra makes it a lot worse. I also know the right bra is harder to find for most women, because I've gone through it with my wife. If you are bigger then 36DD, most stores don't even want you inside. Or if you are a 36G, they'll try to stick you in a 42DD if you go to one of the "big girl" stores. IF you try wearing that, a few minute later your band rides up and your back and shoulders start to ache. Frustration sets in. Then some of your "friends" start suggesting maybe you should have surgery to correct your "problem."
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Originally Posted by Pikantari
I don't think I ever said you should be ashamed of that.
Weight loss is not going to allow a woman to lost the amount of breast tissue/fat that she will need to lose to obtain the size she needs to be rid of the pain.
You have no idea about the pain women go through with such large breast sizes...... maybe your wife doesn't complain because she knows how much you like them.
Losing weight off your spine is lost weight, whether it comes mostly from your beasts or not, it is still less pressure on your muscles and joints. My wife used to complain when she was like most women and wore worn out VS and department store bras that were the wrong size. Now, not at all.
Well, bottom line, it is each individual woman's choice as to how she wants to deal with her breasts larger or small.
As I mentioned previously, I am larger than average in my chest even at my very thinnest; however it is true that they do gain or lose as I gain and lose. For myself, I am not as extreme as some of the women posting in this thread; and having lost some weight and gained back muscle recently has made a big difference for me. I am still large, but happy with the way I look, it is not extreme. There was a time when I thought I needed reduction due to back pain (scioliosis) and posture issues. As I said, weight loss along with strength training and yoga fixed that for me.
If a woman has tried everything and still has major issues, she should go ahead and do what is best for HER, and it doesn't matter what anyone here thinks, especially the men who don't even know her or have any place in her life for pete's sake!
Indeed. The opinions that matter most to me are mine, my gf's, and the ladies posting on this thread who have had or considered the procedure, although I also appreciate the male posters who have CONSTRUCTIVE ideas to convey. I believe the first best step is going to the bra fitter to see if she can improve the comfort level by sizing me correctly. There are several in my large city. Ironically, the boob weight interferes with my ability to get more intense with my workouts. I enjoy working out hard, huffing and puffing and really going at it. I do those chest flys, shoulder presses and back exercises to strengthen, but I haven't seen much change in size with those.
The problem is this world places a lot of emphasis on looks and instant gratification and a lot of it is done for vanity. Having big natural boobs is not "the look" that is held to high standard in this country and anything bigger then DD's is considered fat, matronly, dumpy and otherwise ugly.
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Originally Posted by Tourian
It sounds good to say that, but in this world it really isn't a "choice." Women get pressured to meet a beauty ideal from the moment they can stand up. And right now, big natural boobs just aren't in.
Big natural breasts are not the "look" held to high standard in this country? You're kidding, right? There is so much emphasis placed on big boobs in this country, it's crazy. Why do you think so many women choose to go under the knife to have bags placed in their chests? Because it's fun?
Do you not see the incredible irony in your posts? You claim to lament all the social pressure women feel to meet a beauty ideal and their lack of "choice" in the process, but then you go on (and on and on...) TELLING women what YOU THINK they should do with their large breasts.
Why? Because YOU (and some other men) like very large breasts. Apparently, what the women want for themselves for whatever reason - be it "vanity" or otherwise - is irrelevant and invalid to you. So much for a woman's choice.
I really, really wish men could have the pleasure of experiencing the constant pressure to have a "package" the ideal size (big and full) that women experience to have a "rack" the ideal size (big and full). After all, bigger is better, right? I also want to see threads discussing and comparing men's penis size, shape, etc,. Of course women will write in with their opinions, telling men what they should or shouldn't do, and the kind of underwear and pants they should wear, in order to achieve the look that women like in their men.
I wonder how men would respond to that? I wonder how they'd like to have even 1/10 of the pressure to meet standards set by women that women feel to meet standards set by men? I'm not sure, but somehow I'm thinkin' that men wouldn't like that one bit.
Big natural breasts are not the "look" held to high standard in this country? You're kidding, right? There is so much emphasis placed on big boobs in this country, it's crazy. Why do you think so many women choose to go under the knife to have bags placed in their chests? Because it's fun?
You think big fake breasts look like big natural breasts? You're kidding right? You think heavy women with H-cup and up breasts are held to a high standard? You think just average women with average bodies, but large chests are idolized? You're kidding right? I didn't bother reading the rest of your post. If you think the people getting reductions are built like Kate Upton or Brooklyn Decker or the people getting implants are aspiring to look like Queen Latifah (pre-op) or Camryn Manheim, you obviously can't be reasoned with and there's no sense trying to communicate with you.
For those of you who've had it done, did it reduce your sensitivity? I've heard the loss of sensation is something that doesn't heal. Was that your experience?
I retained sensitivity BUT my recovery went badly and I had necrosis of the incisions so it is not a surgery to take lightly. About 5 years past and the scars from the healed necrosis are awful but are fading somewhat.
That being said I do not regret having had the surgery. I went from an EE to a D cup and to a pain free life as far as the heavy and big breasts go.
Like the OP I am a short woman and those big breasts were too much.
And yes, to all the nay sayers, I did have my bras professionally fitted, exercised, lost weight, went to the chiropractor, etc and so on. It was not a decision made lightly and the thought of having someone cut into your breasts is scary. But life is better for me now.
You think big fake breasts look like big natural breasts? You're kidding right? You think heavy women with H-cup and up breasts are held to a high standard? You're kidding right? I didn't bother reading the rest of your post. If you think the people getting reductions are built like Kate Upton or Brooklyn Decker or the people getting implants are aspiring to look like Queen Latifah (pre-op) or Camryn Manheim, you obviously can't be reasoned with and there's no sense trying to communicate with you.
I never said that big, fake breasts look like big natural breasts, and I wouldn't say that because I don't think that. I personally dislike the big, fake, porn-star boob look intensely. But it seems that most women that have that look manage to make a ton of money in this country. And I didn't say ANYTHING about breast reduction, either, because that is a very personal choice that the OP will make for HERSELF.
And if you want your opinions on women's looks to be taken seriously, then at least post pictures of yourself. That way, you might add some credibility to your posts (and then again, maybe not).
It sounds good to say that, but in this world it really isn't a "choice." Women get pressured to meet a beauty ideal from the moment they can stand up. And right now, big natural boobs just aren't in. If you have them, you get picked on teased, told you are fat, ugly, out of proportion, that your back must be killing you and that you look like a ****, a loose woman, or a bimbo. Some people think you cant even be taken seriously because of them and aren't very intelligent if you have them. Just like the actresses who did it to get better roles, that translates (sometimes) into the professional world too. That kind of psychological pressure takes its toll, so choosing to have them reduced because you think its "best for you" is a crock of stuff, IMO. If big natural boobs were the in thing, most women wouldn't have the procedure. They'd put up with the mostly imagined pain and discomfort, like they do for high heel shoes and tight clothing. VS and most department stores would carry (more) larger then DD cup sizes and stop trying to sister size women into bigger bands that offer squat for support. Women would put up with it because they'd have positive reinforcement for having them. It is really sad to hear someone think they look "out of proportion". Sez who? Who decides what someone should look like and why? Every busty woman I have ever known as that one hater friend that follow them around telling them look fat in that outfit, or that men only like them for one thing.
I don't know where every woman's line is for pain and discomfort is. I do know the wrong bra makes it a lot worse. I also know the right bra is harder to find for most women, because I've gone through it with my wife. If you are bigger then 36DD, most stores don't even want you inside. Or if you are a 36G, they'll try to stick you in a 42DD if you go to one of the "big girl" stores. IF you try wearing that, a few minute later your band rides up and your back and shoulders start to ache. Frustration sets in. Then some of your "friends" start suggesting maybe you should have surgery to correct your "problem."
Losing weight off your spine is lost weight, whether it comes mostly from your beasts or not, it is still less pressure on your muscles and joints. My wife used to complain when she was like most women and wore worn out VS and department store bras that were the wrong size. Now, not at all.
Huh?
Are you talking about models and clothes seen in women's fashion magazines (read by women only)?
Because they are sure as hell "in" with many many guys.
Picked on by.. those who are jealous. No surprise there.
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