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Old 09-02-2015, 10:47 PM
 
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Fat shaming has gone too far???

I'd say gluttony and laziness have gone too far. The near 70 % of people who are overweight in this country is evidence of that.

 
Old 09-02-2015, 11:05 PM
 
Location: NYC metro area
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Fat shaming has gone too far???

I'd say gluttony and laziness have gone too far. The near 70 % of people who are overweight in this country is evidence of that.
Well then, by all means, let's continue to tell overweight people what gross, lazy, inferior and worthless humans they are--that will definitely help the problem! Because shaming people into doing what you think they should do always works!
 
Old 09-03-2015, 05:03 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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Fat shaming has gone too far???

I'd say gluttony and laziness have gone too far. The near 70 % of people who are overweight in this country is evidence of that.
Again with the over-stated stats. But for sake of discussion, I'll pretend it's as bad as the numbers say. Still, is it okay to treat these people differently? It's okay to publicly humiliate them based on a physical characteristic? Is it okay to fat shame because you disagree with their lifestyle decisions (even though you likely don't know what's behind the veil with any given person)?
 
Old 09-03-2015, 02:15 PM
 
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Again with the over-stated stats. But for sake of discussion, I'll pretend it's as bad as the numbers say. Still, is it okay to treat these people differently? It's okay to publicly humiliate them based on a physical characteristic? Is it okay to fat shame because you disagree with their lifestyle decisions (even though you likely don't know what's behind the veil with any given person)?
I can't speak for what others do, nor do I particularly care. I personally don't humiliate overweight inividuals that I encounter. I have always had opinions and preconceived notions about overweight people, but it's not my style to call them out and embarrass anyone in publc.
 
Old 09-03-2015, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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I can't speak for what others do, nor do I particularly care. I personally don't humiliate overweight inividuals that I encounter. I have always had opinions and preconceived notions about overweight people, but it's not my style to call them out and embarrass anyone in publc.
I can appreciate that you keep your thoughts to yourself. But this post contradicts itself. You say you "nor do I particularly care" in reference to speaking for what others do. In context, you are referring to my series of questions challenging the concept of fat shaming vs extending others the dignity they deserve as humans. But if you genuinely don't care what others do, then why have preconceived notions about overweight people? Preconceived notions that are often, I'd hazard, not accurate.
 
Old 09-03-2015, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Louisville KY
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I disagree. And certainly not the one in the Thread pic. That woman on the right has a perfect body, the one of the left is disgusting looking. She might be a very nice girl, but, come on man......
That's a pic of Tess Holiday, and the slimmed picture is not a perfect body.
 
Old 09-03-2015, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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I'd like to share an idea with you. Have you ever met anyone with a higher or lower level of intellect than you? Like that person who only showed up on the day of a mid-term and final exam and still aced the class as opposed to the person who was there for every class and barely scratched out a B-. Have you ever met someone more talented than you? Less talented? Stronger? Weaker? And so on and so forth, you get the idea. Can you answer yes to any or all of those questions?

Chances are you can, and that's because we humans are all different with different talents and different levels of those talents. This is why some people play in the NFL and others of us chat on CD. And think about those guys who are professional athletes. There is an immense amount of hard work, but if the raw physical talent isn't there, it's just not there. So physical talent and ability exists not as a matter of have or have not, but more on a continuum. And what comes easily to some does not come so easily to others. In addition to that, some have to overcome more to get the same results as someone whose natural talent is greater than their own.

This isn't an attempt to make excuses for overweight people. I believe anyone who genuinely desires to do so can do it. But it is not always as simple as them "eating too much and thinking not enough." It's a total lifestyle change for a lot of them. And since it appears all your friends are fit and lean, it's probably a safe bet to guess you don't do an extensive amount of interaction with overweight people and therefore are unfamiliar and unqualified to judge them since you don't know their back story.

I'll tell you who doesn't do enough thinking: Judgmental people.

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Old 09-03-2015, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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It's a matter of what people actually should do based on objective and rational criteria. People who are overweight should eat less and move more, and perhaps even more important than eating less would be eating the right things and avoiding the wrong things. The foregoing may not be the only factors involved, of course. There may also be medical issues in some cases. (But you have repeatedly refused to list even two or three such medical issues as examples, thus casting doubt on your thesis.)

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Old 09-03-2015, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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People who are overweight should eat less and move more, and perhaps even more important than eating less would be eating the right things and avoiding the wrong things.
I agree with you, but....I eat two meals a day. Each meal is one item. So if I make meatloaf from a pound of hamburger and split it into four parts, that's four meals. How much less do you want me to eat?

I know I'm fat and the reason is because I get hardly any exercise. It's sort of hard to exercise when you have a degenerating disk and are in pain whenever you put pressure on your back, like standing and walking, for instance. You know, when I was a child and someone asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up, I don't think I said I wanted to be fat so my health can suffer and other people can call me names and pass judgment on every facet of my life.
 
Old 09-03-2015, 11:49 PM
 
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Weight is like 70-85% diet and 15-30% exercise . If you're overweight, it's probably because you're just consuming too much. Google, peeps. I've even known someone who was an athlete, like exercised 5x a week for 2 hours, and was still overweight because they ate too much.
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