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Old 07-11-2009, 01:24 PM
 
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This is the fashion board isn't it? I would assume posters to a fashion board would aspire to a white collar national magazine approach to fashion not one shown by Larry the Cable Guy or Roseanne!
You raised the question. I answered it.

And it had nothing to do with what one should aspire to. That could be a whole other thread. Something like "how important is it to be in fashion if one is blue-collar".

You were snidely making a value judgement that portends snobbery on your part and then when called on it try to fall back on the "this is a fashion board, isn't it" as though your post was about a fashion point when it clearly had more behind it than that.

 
Old 07-11-2009, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Coachella Valley, California
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I think the OP is confusing the terms blue collar and white collar. She clearly doesn't know the meaning of either term.

blue-col⋅lar  /ˈbluˈkɒlər/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [bloo-kol-er] Show IPA
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–adjective 1. of or pertaining to wage-earning workers who wear work clothes or other specialized clothing on the job, as mechanics, longshoremen, and miners. Compare white-collar

white-col⋅lar  /ˈʰwaɪtˈkɒlər, ˈwaɪt-/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [hwahyt-kol-er, wahyt-] Show IPA
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–adjective 1. belonging or pertaining to the ranks of office and professional workers whose jobs generally do not involve manual labor or the wearing of a uniform or work clothes.

Of course certain people are going to wear clothing ON THE JOB that fits the job. Certainly one can spot the difference between a mechanic and a doctor. Each has to dress in a particular fashion for their job.

If, indeed, the OP insists she is in the right and we are all in the wrong, then this is NOT a fashion related question, but rather an employment related question and should be moved to the appropriate forum.

I think what the OP is getting at, but doesn't have the balls to just come out and say is: "Why don't poor people dress like rich people?"
 
Old 07-11-2009, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Northern NH
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I think the OP is confusing the terms blue collar and white collar. She clearly doesn't know the meaning of either term.

blue-col⋅lar  /ˈbluˈkɒlər/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [bloo-kol-er] Show IPA
Use blue collar in a Sentence
–adjective 1. of or pertaining to wage-earning workers who wear work clothes or other specialized clothing on the job, as mechanics, longshoremen, and miners. Compare white-collar

white-col⋅lar  /ˈʰwaɪtˈkɒlər, ˈwaɪt-/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [hwahyt-kol-er, wahyt-] Show IPA
Use white-collar in a Sentence
–adjective 1. belonging or pertaining to the ranks of office and professional workers whose jobs generally do not involve manual labor or the wearing of a uniform or work clothes.

Of course certain people are going to wear clothing ON THE JOB that fits the job. Certainly one can spot the difference between a mechanic and a doctor. Each has to dress in a particular fashion for their job.

If, indeed, the OP insists she is in the right and we are all in the wrong, then this is NOT a fashion related question, but rather an employment related question and should be moved to the appropriate forum.

I think what the OP is getting at, but doesn't have the balls to just come out and say is: "Why don't poor people dress like rich people?"
I respectfully say there is more than just dressing a certain class. There is a whole study in this. There is much more to it...There is a culture and I don't think it can be denied. It is more than a bottle of expensive shampoo. There is more just so much more.
 
Old 07-11-2009, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Coachella Valley, California
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Wait ...
 
Old 07-11-2009, 02:53 PM
 
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I respectfully say there is more than just dressing a certain class. There is a whole study in this. There is much more to it...There is a culture and I don't think it can be denied. It is more than a bottle of expensive shampoo. There is more just so much more.
According to the OP, it is ALL about being fashionable. You or I would word this differently because we are capable of formulating a more sophisticated thought process than the OP. Let's take a look at the OP's original post. You will see she makes NO reference whatsoever to manner of speech, education, or anything not having to do with how they dress or their appearance.

"Ever noticed that when you go into a working class or blue collar neighborhood many of the people do not pay much attention to their beauty or fashion. Of course some of the reason is due to the cost of staying current, but I am convinced that blue collar people really do not care in most cases about their appearance.

When I go to a class reunion I always can tell the people who are working class or blue collar, they look rough. Their skin is tough looking, their hair looks like something out of the 1980s and they are far more likely to be overweight. They just seem to let themselves go.

Do you agree or disagree? I am talking about most of the time. I do know some working class people who care about beauty, fashion and personal appearance. But most of the time, they look rough!
"

See what I mean? It is all about "the look".
 
Old 07-11-2009, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Coachella Valley, California
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Another thing I want to point out is the issue here is "Do they care about their appearance?" The OP stated the issue in her first paragraph, to wit:

"...but I am convinced that blue collar people really do not care in most cases about their appearance."

Accordingly, this is a debate about whether or not blue collar workers care about their appearance. The simple answer is ... some do and some don't.
 
Old 07-11-2009, 03:33 PM
 
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I think it is a combination of income and blue collar white collar. If a plumber makes good money he and his family still look and act different than an accountant in most cases.
Maybe that's because more studious (read "preppy") people tend to be accountants and you won't find the accountant skydiving like a cop I know does?? Different makeups in personality traits tend to lead people to certain careers. Some of the richest people I've ever met went from rags to riches and you'd never know they were filthy rich just looking at them because many remember where they came from They & blue collars also don't need to brag about how awesome they are, something else I see and hear all to frequently in that certain tax bracket. Oh look at how awesome I look. Gimme a break and get over your(them)selves!!
It sounds like OP, judging by the many threads with the same theme, went from city to suburb, and now their stuff don't stink because they got away from the "scummy urban people". People who make just enough to have a bit more than the city people they left behind now are only stressed out in debt while the blue collar guy in the rowhouse takes his kids to Disney every year and his car's paid off!!!

Have to add what I should have thought to say first , that maybe just maybe blue collar does not wake up each and every day "knowing they have to impress whoever they encounter" as much as the office-type poeple would. superficialism rules in some occupations, Imo/

Last edited by WhatSayYou; 07-11-2009 at 03:54 PM.. Reason: had to add something
 
Old 07-11-2009, 04:07 PM
 
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Even if you're independently, old family wealthy, and you happen to be a plumber (it happens!)....they won't be dressed in Jos. Banks when they're on a call. Their hands are going to be banged up. They'll probably have great teeth and a nice haircut, I agree. I think the OP is confusing a person's profession with their socio-economic class.
 
Old 07-11-2009, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Northern NH
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Another thing I want to point out is the issue here is "Do they care about their appearance?" The OP stated the issue in her first paragraph, to wit:

"...but I am convinced that blue collar people really do not care in most cases about their appearance."

Accordingly, this is a debate about whether or not blue collar workers care about their appearance. The simple answer is ... some do and some don't.
Well ok I am perhaps thinking to much as usual
 
Old 07-11-2009, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Northern NH
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Even if you're independently, old family wealthy, and you happen to be a plumber (it happens!)....they won't be dressed in Jos. Banks when they're on a call. Their hands are going to be banged up. They'll probably have great teeth and a nice haircut, I agree. I think the OP is confusing a person's profession with their socio-economic class.

Point taken!
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