02-06-2009, 04:59 PM
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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hmmmm....why are some of you asking if they 'HIT' their children??? Now if they, or anyone is HITTING their children, child services should be called. But if you mean spanking/discipline...well that is another matter entirely
you are right, I was sorta wondering the same, did this actually mean "hitting" as in smacking or are we talking a swat on the behind once in awhile???
Nita
02-06-2009, 05:05 PM
Location: New York City
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Well, I'm opposed to hitting/spanking children. I know many people in this country are okay with it, but I'm not. Is it fairly accepted in Arkansas? We are interested in Fayetteville, but if it's common practice there, then I would reconsider. My child goes to a school now where the majority of the parents that I know do NOT believe in hitting children. Needless to say, there are never any fights in the school yard. I grew up in a neighborhood where most kids were hit by their parents( I was not), and it was very common to see boys fighting with each other all of the time. Anyway, this is getting off topic. I just feel more comfortable around people who practice modern parenting.
02-06-2009, 07:00 PM
Location: Little Rock, AR
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I can't believe this has gone on for 12 pages. The family can live however they want as long as they aren't forcing their lifestyle onto the rest of us. Thats what makes America great, we have freedom to live out the American dream in whatever way we see fit.
02-06-2009, 08:05 PM
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I can't believe this has gone on for 12 pages. The family can live however they want as long as they aren't forcing their lifestyle onto the rest of us. Thats what makes America great, we have freedom to live out the American dream in whatever way we see fit.
It has gone this far because it is an interesting and debatable subject. If for no other reason people are curious about unusual life styles. They are also, now TV stars which puts them in the lime light. Controversial subjects are always subject of debate. Does that help you understand why the subject continues to be discussed?
Do you feel the same way about the gal in Calif who just gave birth to 8 little babies? Should that also not be discussed because she is free to do as she choses?
Nita
02-06-2009, 09:17 PM
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Every child will have free will when they grow-up regardless of how they are raised.....
that is just a fact of God's creation, "yes", God's creation! I feel that the Dugger's are a missionary type of family and feel that being on TV can and will influence some families. No, they are not normal to most of the families in America, especially the really disfunctional families. I'd much rather watch the Dugger's than the Ozzy Ozborne type families any day. I'd really like to see a new show called, "The Dugger's meet the Goslin's". Now that would be a show!
02-06-2009, 09:44 PM
Location: Neither here nor there
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nmnita
and do you believe everything you see on TV? I am not saying they are not a happy family, what I am saying is you nor do I know if they are happy. I am sure with all your wonderful knowledge you seem to have, you realize that for every TV episode that is shot there are 3 or 4 more hours of tape.
OK, you made your point:
1: You do not know whether they are a happy family or not.
2: You believe that no one outside the family members themselves can know for sure whether it is a happy family or not.
As for me thinking you are judgmental about the Duggars, I was going on this statement from you, "Yes, I am judging and probably should not" in a previous post.
We are all free to believe whatever we want to believe. My belief that the Duggars are, on the whole, a happy family is based on intuitive perception from watching the TV shows and not on any vague assumptions. I see happiness in their faces, hear it in their voices and my gut tells me it is all real and not pretense for the sake of a phony TV show that enriches the family coffers. That they have their ups and downs, their differences, their petty squabbles, I don't doubt. Such is part of family life and the human condition. That they have a strong and basically healthy family, I also do not doubt. I, for one, believe that we are seeing a family that is much more
eu functional than it is
dys functional.
02-06-2009, 10:55 PM
Location: Arkansas
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Sherrenee,
In the almost 10 years that I have been around the family I have never seen them spank or yell at any of the kids. I have seen them pull them a side and talk to them, I have also seen them give them time out, but no spanking.
The kids are very well behaved! I would say they get the kids to behave by giving them respect and they remain calm. When a kid does something wrong they correct the child immediately by pulling them aside (they are usually in the same room as other people but they speak only to the child who has misbehaved) and speaking to them. They do not talk down to the child nor do they try to embarrass them.
As for the kids being happy... Yes they are happy. The kids are very much normal, they run around and play and get rowdy, don't want to do there school work etc just like any other kid. They are expected to be respectful and well mannered. The kids are exposed to a variety of different people from large families like themselves who are home schooled to your average everyday people (such as my husband and myself). The kids learn the basic general school courses, but they are also taught how to actually live and function in life (raising and caring for children, cooking,cleaning, working on cars etc).
By the way Jordyn was in the hospital due to having issues breathing (she caught a bug), she is home now and doing much better.
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02-07-2009, 05:20 AM
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they do NOT represent mainstream NWA in any way. That is a bad refelction on Arkansas as a whole
Bravo.
02-07-2009, 06:40 AM
Location: New York City
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sherrenee
In the almost 10 years that I have been around the family I have never seen them spank or yell at any of the kids. I have seen them pull them a side and talk to them, I have also seen them give them time out, but no spanking.
Thank you for responding. I'm glad to hear that they practice their own version of modern parenting
I really respect that.
02-07-2009, 09:04 AM
Location: Philly to Odessa
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I am new to watching the Duggars on tv. When I had my 4th baby at age 38, some people (even family members) looked at me like I was crazy....4 kids in my late 30's. What was I thinking? I was very much offended. My children are a blessing and they keep me young. I respect the Duggar family. I like a big family....maybe not as many as 18....but who am I to judge those who want and can take care of that size of a family. If the kids were abused and neglected, that would be something quite different. That, however, is not the case with this family. In fact, I think this world is in serious need of some morals, faith, and love. Why do good things have to be scrutinized and twisted to look bad?
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People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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